Pace:
Its awful its dragging and slow unnecessary things get more attention then it should be
WCI did took nearly 80 chapters but could be wraped up in 50 chapters
The same with Wano awful long
Side-character focus:
Rebecca, Otama and so on are so dragging and arent liked yet he still insists on them
fight:
Major problem Kingdom, MHA or OPM they scorring in combat scenes there well written and the choreography is top notch
And OP
just teasing , skipping few scenes and you have to wait 40 weeks for it fights are just 10% of an arc a 15-year old doesnt want to see plot armour but want to see the technique of his favorite characters instead skipping
Doflamingo, Fuji vs Law
Doffy vs Law
clash royale in colosseum
Burgess vs Sabo
Fujitora vs Sabo
all skipped but Rebecca gets 4 chapter for her background
next point flashbacks:
Some are really intersting but its too much another dragging point
Yonko:
are the biggest disapointment
they are stupid, clumsy, easy to deceive you cant take them seriously and they dont have the enemy vibe like Croc or Lucci
buffons that can easily be tricked
Crew:
Oda soley focuses on Luffy the crew doesnt play a major role like in the pre-ts-arcs
Robin and Nami fanservice
Sanji punchin bag
Ussop and chopper didnt evolve one bit
and so on
most of them cant even use haki bad
anime:
Its one of the major factors it sucks it just milking awfully animation awful pace
The characters dont even have proper animation its like a cartoon for 6 year old a decacde ago the animation was much better
breaks:
Oda stretches things up the breaks make it even longer
Plot-armour
its so stupid Nami gets Zeus
Otama can take out elite-pirates
Luffy will be saved everytime he fails
Brulee saves Luffy
BM hunger attack
BM take out P1 and Ulti
and so on
All in one Oda is past his zenith he doesnt have the quality how things are solved is stupid
Nami gets Zeus and Sanji gets Suit
just give them haki or adv haki why do you need to give them something from someone else its like cheating
Every series loses fans as time goes on and one piece has fans equivalent to pre-marneford hype.
Assuming sales correlate with guality is wrong so what you typed isn't the reason why OP is losing fans but rather every series loses fans and One Piece has rather done well for keeping around 2 million fans 25 years into the story.
Every series loses fans as time goes on and one piece has fans equivalent to pre-marneford hype.
Assuming sales correlate with guality is wrong so what you typed isn't the reason why OP is losing fans but rather every series loses fans and One Piece has rather done well for keeping around 2 million fans 25 years into the story.
by now OP should have increase a child born 2008 is now 13 years old so if you cant increase your fanbase it means you have hardcore fans but not new fans
Imagine talking about quality in a ranking where KNY is at the top.
The fact is there are more manga readers today than ever before in history so new gen anime with hype like JJK and KNY have the highest fans ever which surpasses Dragon ball, slam dunk and One piece's peaks.
Imagine talking about quality in a ranking where KNY is at the top.
The fact is there are more manga readers today than ever before in history so new gen anime with hype like JJK and KNY have the highest fans ever which surpasses Dragon ball, slam dunk and One piece's peaks.
by now OP should have increase a child born 2008 is now 13 years old so if you cant increase your fanbase it means you have hardcore fans but not new fans
Yes, One piece has old fans not new fans. 13 year olds in Japan today would rather read JJK, KNY and other short manga with hype rather than One piece which has almost a 100 volumes and has less hype
We are comparing sales here, and KNY at it's peak is selling more than dragon ball. So bashing one piece for it is silly since even a monster like dragon ball is getting out sold
We are comparing sales here, and KNY at it's peak is selling more than dragon ball. So bashing one piece for it is silly since even a monster like dragon ball is getting out sold
Imagine talking about quality in a ranking where KNY is at the top.
The fact is there are more manga readers today than ever before in history so new gen anime with hype like JJK and KNY have the highest fans ever which surpasses Dragon ball, slam dunk and One piece's peaks.
what you consider average is a downfall since a couple of years
Most people have here constructive criticism because its true who needs Otama who needs Rebecca backstory its dragging nothing more even a stone has a sad background story in OP
OP has been constantly declining since MF , you can criticize so much stuff but I feel like its inevitable for story this long to taper down ... Wano volumes as you can see has been going under the 2M
But what I'm mostly talking about is people overreaction of OP falling out of the top which's clearly due to less volumes and not sudden drop in quality
Enies Lobby was the beginning of OP peak. Fishmen Island was the peak and downfall. OP selling less and less after that and having even more hype is the proof anyone needs to know how bad the series is current day. We had G4 hype, BM Arc hype with Snakeman Hype and finally Wano Arc hype that we've waiting since Punk Hazard.
Imagine talking about quality in a ranking where KNY is at the top.
The fact is there are more manga readers today than ever before in history so new gen anime with hype like JJK and KNY have the highest fans ever which surpasses Dragon ball, slam dunk and One piece's peaks.
Enies Lobby was the beginning of OP peak. Fishmen Island was the peak and downfall. OP selling less and less after that and having even more hype is the proof anyone needs to know how bad the series is current day. We had G4 hype, BM Arc hype with Snakeman Hype and finally Wano Arc hype that we've waiting since Punk Hazard.
Wano is the only hype part you can talk about. And again it is natural for sales to fall for any series and One piece is doing good 25 years into publication. No other manga has ran that long still having 2million+ fans. And even the KNY with hype right now would have also fallen if it continued
Yes, One piece has old fans not new fans. 13 year olds in Japan today would rather read JJK, KNY and other short manga with hype rather than One piece which has almost a 100 volumes and has less hype
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We are comparing sales here, and KNY at it's peak is selling more than dragon ball. So bashing one piece for it is silly since even a monster like dragon ball is getting out sold
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We are comparing sales here, and KNY at it's peak is selling more than dragon ball. So bashing one piece for it is silly since even a monster like dragon ball is getting out sold
Yes, One piece has old fans not new fans. 13 year olds in Japan today would rather read JJK, KNY and other short manga with hype rather than One piece which has almost a 100 volumes and has less hype
Its not the length but quality MHA, OPM battlewise is better than OP they dont tease they do actually one o one
look at OP in the past 114 chapters no real battle and this is shounen just tease thats all most readers got sick of it
15 year old boys dont only want battle but they want action and Oda isnt delivering
OP has been constantly declining since MF , you can criticize so much stuff but I feel like its inevitable for story this long to taper down ... Wano volumes as you can see has been going under the 2M
But what I'm mostly talking about is people overreaction of OP falling out of the top which's clearly due to less volumes and not sudden drop in quality
Wano is the only hype part you can talk about. And again it is natural for sales to fall for any series and One piece is doing good 25 years into publication. No other manga has ran that long still having 2million+ fans. And even the KNY with hype right now would have also fallen if it continued
KNY reach a mark OP will never reach, 80+mi sales in a year. And still now I bet will sell more than OP peak. Yet you keep here saying all those bullshit even with all evidences that OP is falling where it suppose to be the best moment. Chapter 1000 and many more...
You get what you deserve! Last 20 chapters was absolute garbage! Like even WCI arc was much much better(before it come to Katakuri fight), people don't want to buy shit and read shit, eat it yourself. Millions started to drop this shit, and now even oldest funs going to threw this shit into garbage can. Case you did by yourself, killed own manga, work of your life.
Turned best potential BEST arc into Dog Shit! There was no way to ruin it, but he did ..idk maybe real Oda died long ago, but this is not manga and author that I love and want to read.
KNY reach a mark OP will never reach, 80+mi sales in a year. And still now I bet will sell more than OP peak. Yet you keep here saying all those bullshit even with all evidences that OP is falling where it suppose to be the best moment. Chapter 1000 and many more...
OP is falling which is natural for a series 25+ years in publication.
KNY selling 80mil isn't a reason to mock OP, because KNY has outsold every single manga in history even legendary ones like dragon ball and slam dunk.
You get what you deserve! Last 20 chapters was absolute garbage! Like even WCI arc was much much better(before it come to Katakuri fight), people don't want to buy shit and read shit, eat it yourself. Millions started to drop this shit, and now even oldest funs going to threw this shit into garbage can. Case you did by yourself, killed own manga, work of your life.
Turned best potential BEST arc into Dog Shit! There was no way to ruin it, but he did ..idk maybe real Oda died long ago, but this is not manga and author that I love and want to read.
OP is falling which is natural for a series 25+ years in publication.
KNY selling 80mil isn't a reason to mock OP, because KNY has outsold every single manga in history even legendary ones like dragon ball and slam dunk.
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One question
Do you think sales correlate with quality?
Do you think KNY and JJK are quality series more than the likes of Kingdom?
Is not natural for OP to drop quality. You took one argument about OP but it doesn't fit to KNY?
KNY is 205 chapters. OP started to be good at sales at Enies Lobby around 300 chapters. Peak of Marineford 500 chapters until Fishmen Island 650 chapters. Then the downfall came.
You said "KNY would have sold less even if the series keep going" but that wasn't true for OP. So you have no argument in here.
OP fans always grabbed about the sales and now out of sudden they doesn't matter anymore.
Sales is not equal quality, but what is OP quality since sales were always number 1 argument?
Either way, sales means audicence is liking or not the manga. In all meaninings people are dislike current OP.
I didn't talk about drop in quality, I talked about drop in sales. And you have to be delusional if you thought OP would be selling 38mil+ every year like marineford till it ends. That isn't possible since people who have read it won't buy the volume again for no reason
This is true for One piece,KNY and One piece all had their peak and from the peak the series will decline it sales till it ends. One piece's peak was 2011 and it has declined to pre-marineford hype sales in 2021. That is what is expected.
Is not natural for OP to drop quality. You took one argument about OP but it doesn't fit to KNY?
KNY is 205 chapters. OP started to be good at sales at Enies Lobby around 300 chapters. Peak of Marineford 500 chapters until Fishmen Island 650 chapters. Then the downfall came.
You said "KNY would have sold less even if the series keep going" but that wasn't true for OP. So you have no argument in here.
OP fans always grabbed about the sales and now out of sudden they doesn't matter anymore.
Sales is not equal quality, but what is OP quality since sales were always number 1 argument?
Either way, sales means audicence is liking or not the manga. In all meaninings people are dislike current OP.
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