Questions & Mysteries How would Doflamingo have pulled off hijacking Uranus, and why could he not be stopped no matter how hard the WG tried?

[comrade]

Doffy pointed out, that with the power of the Ope Ope no Mi, he could've gained control over Marijoa's national treasure, supposedly Uranus, to gain control over the world.

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- How would he have pulled that off?
- What role would the Ope Ope no Mi have played?
- What exactly is Uranus in this case or the entity controlled by Uranus?

Judging Doffy's monologue, it's neither the immortality operation, nor the personality switching technique. Doffy said:
"If I'd had the power of the Ope Ope no Mi that day, I could've used the national treasure to control the world itself, that's how powerful the ability you hold can be (...) not to mention its personality transplant ability (...)" (which indicates that the personality switch is not what Doffy would've used with Imu, since he mentions that ability separately, apart from the question whether the power of Uranus would remain in Imu's body instead of being switched with the soul).

Having the Ope Ope no Mi, how would he have operated? What would his plan look like to possibly take over Imu or kill him? How would he gain control over Uranus?

Doffy is quite the master mind if you think about it. Doffy said that no matter how hard they tried, the couldn't get rid of Doffy, allowing Doffy to blackmail the WG and the Celestial Dragon's into priviledges, also actively planning on possibly controlling Uranus itself. Note how Imu sets examples by eradicating fodder Kingdom's rioting, yet Doflamingo, who knows their deepest secrets, resides in his own kingdom, black mails the WG and cannot be killed by them "no matter how hard they try"

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[PurpleSwordsman]

With Shambles
Uranus has some remote control which is guarded at Mariejoa, tightly guarded.
Gigantic Room + Shambles and he can steal it instantly and from kms away.


Nah, no idea

Doffy said that no matter how hard they tried, the couldn't get rid of Doffy, allowing Doffy to blackmail the WG and the Celestial Dragon's into priviledges, also actively planning on possibly controlling Uranus itself.

This might be nothing and simply a poor excuse for the villain of that arc to still exist there so MC can beat him because we will found it later that he should have died long ago.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Maybe Uranus uses lifespans? Doffy wants Law's Ope so he can be immortal so he can use Uranus as much as he likes. Of course this is just my personal opinion.

 

[Plex]

Imu is the national treasure and is in controll of Uranus.

The hint lies with Doffy's statement. "Its very existance would shake the world to its foundations".

The phrase "to shake the foundations of something" is to simply make people question/change their beliefs. The belief right now is that there's no king of the world and the empty throne is a symbol of trust and cooperation with the allied nations. As we know that's all a big lie. Just look at Sabo's expression once he started talking about somebody sitting on the empty throne, the guy is completely shell shocked. These people have had their minds programmed into thinking that the CD's are the be all and end all. If Doflamingo were to reveal Imu's existence then the trust build upon the WG would diminish greatly. If they can lie about something so important then imagine what other secrets they have tucked under the curtain.

Of all the abilites tied to the OP fruit Doffy decides to mention the personality switch and the Immortality operation. This is not done just on a whim, it's tied to the NT and how to utilize it.

-> Make Corazon eat the fruit
-> Have him use the personality switch on Doffy + Imu
-> Sacrifice himself with the immortality operation so that Imu's body with (Doffy's mind) lives forever
-> Doffy rules the world forever "inside" Imu's body and to top it off posseses an ancient weapon to nuke whoever he pleases.

 

[comrade]

-> Make Corazon eat the fruit
-> Have him use the personality switch on Doffy + Imu
-> Sacrifice himself with the immortality operation so that Imu's body with (Doffy's mind) lives forever
-> Doffy rules the world forever "inside" Imu's body and to top it off posseses an ancient weapon to nuke whoever he pleases.

That is, if Imu isn't already immortal, as the current WG rules for at least 800 years. Inb4 that Imu is just the next generation, with other Imu's having existed prior to that. But that would assume that Uranus is always reborn within the family.

 

[Plex]

That is, if Imu isn't already immortal, as the current WG rules for at least 800 years. Inb4 that Imu is just the next generation, with other Imu's having existed prior to that. But that would assume that Uranus is always reborn within the family.

We don't know if his immortality comes from the OP fruit or by other medical/scientifical means.

My guess is that utilizing Uranus probably takes a toll on the lifespan. There has to be some drawback, it shouldn't be spammable otherwise Oda will write himself into a corne as he usually does.

The OP fruit would probably "rejuvenate" Imu's body.

 

[comrade]

@Plex now the question that is left is, why they couldn't do anything against Doffychad "no matter how hard they tried"

 

[Plex]

@Plex now the question that is left is, why they couldn't do anything against Doffychad "no matter how hard they tried"

Because he is Oven level

 

[Beckman Supremacy]

Doffy is quite the master mind if you think about it. Doffy said that no matter how hard they tried, the couldn't get rid of Doffy, allowing Doffy to blackmail the WG and the Celestial Dragon's into priviledges, also actively planning on possibly controlling Uranus itself.

Let's seperate the reality from headcanon here, LOL.

- They actually had 0 problems sending people after him to kill him. Just like he said they'd send somebody to impel down to kill him. So them killing them isn't the issue. So why "couldn't" they kill him?

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He always ran away:

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The dude was simply good at running away, which is why the World Government couldn't kill him. They sent Marines after him multiple times, they sent CD soldiers at him when he was a kid, etc. But couldn't kill him cause he always escaped the trap.


- He never blackmailed anyone. This is one of the most widespread headcanons about Doflamingo. He didn't hold the Gorosei hostage, he didn't blackmail a single person in the CD. What he did was use an opportunity where the Gorosei decided to make him into a warlord after failing to kill him countless times, and he used that opportunity to become an entity that was crucial to the Gorosei's "Balance of power" charade.

He made deals with the Yonko for them
He supplied various world government nations with weapons.



Was he a smart guy? Yes, in the fact he used the opportunity given to him and made the best out of it by becoming something the CD couldn't get rid of due to his value. But not in the sense you're trying to make him, cause nobody is blackmailing the Gorosei & Imu. He was just another one of the pawns for the Gorosei like the admirals and yonko to keep up the fake "balance of power".

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I don't believe the "national treasure" is Uranus, but we'll see.

 

[Herrera95]

Maybe Uranus uses lifespans? Doffy wants Law's Ope so he can be immortal so he can use Uranus as much as he likes. Of course this is just my personal opinion.

He said about controlling Uranus before the immortal surgery.

So it's either the basic room or the personality switch thing.

 

[Tejas]

@Plex now the question that is left is, why they couldn't do anything against Doffychad "no matter how hard they tried"

Kaido protection

 

[comrade]

The dude was simply good at running away, which is why the World Government couldn't kill him. They sent Marines after him multiple times, they sent CD soldiers at him when he was a kid, etc. But couldn't kill him cause he always escaped the trap

So that's the limit of the WG's and Imu's power? Doffy being the worst kind of fugitive, knowing the worst secrets regarding Imu and Uranus itself, exposing which would shake the world to its core, chilling at his Kingdom for decades without running, yet Uranus is only utilized against fodder Kingdoms.

:queenhear:

 

[MarineHQ]

It's a boring answer but i think Doffy was just referring to the personality switch.

 

[Cinera]

The hint lies with Doffy's statement. "Its very existance would shake the world to its foundations".

Panel for this, please?

 

[comrade]

Panel for this, please?

Interestingly, Doflamingo also says (according to Viz) that this crucial treasure exists within Marijoa. So Imu probably commands it from there and has it fly to whatever destination Imu decides. That also begs the question again, what the large Straw Hat has to do with it Imu was observing when Doffy was talking about that "secret", with the Gorosei later asked what light shall be extinguished.

 

[Surgeon of death]

He’s talking about shambles the greatest power in the world. Not only is the power capable of stealing imu likeness. But if that’s a DF power, or some weird family trait with his eyes. The abilities regardless can still be claimed, an easier then with the yami.

if I wasn’t lazy as fuck, I would post that EOS Law main villain theory. If u look at it, close enough he’s directly capable of every main Yonko strategy to claim the one piece. The most obvious are BB/Kaido wanting to strengthen there forces with either artificial DFs, or hunting powerful real DF. Both of which the op op fruit can do own it’s own. There Shanks an his connection to luffy, an Law randomly as early as MF risking his own life to save him from the admirals. There other shit but….

 

[Cinera]

Interestingly, Doflamingo also says (according to Viz) that this crucial treasure exists within Marijoa. So Imu probably commands it from there and has it fly to whatever destination Imu decides. That also begs the question again, what the large Straw Hat has to do with it Imu was observing when Doffy was talking about that "secret", with the Gorosei later asked what light shall be extinguished.

Might Imu not be the treasure itself?

The very fact of Imu's existence would "shake the world to its foundations".

Sabo was incredibly shocked (he described it as "unbelievable!!" when he learned that someone sat on the Empty Throne:

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The entire World Government is founded on the premise that no one occupies the Empty Throne, that there is no one "King of the World". All the leaders of countries that are part of the World Government must pledge to the Empty Throne:

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To learn that this is false — that there is in fact a "King of the World" — would "shake the world to its foundations".

Cc: @Plex.

 

[Plex]

That also begs the question again, what the large Straw Hat has to do with it Imu was observing when Doffy was talking about that "secret", with the Gorosei later asked what light shall be extinguished.

The strawhat is just a red herring. It's supposed to divert the reader's attention from Imu to the strawhat and make sure the fandome speculate about it rather than the shadowy figure(Imu).

 

[Surgeon of death]

there’s also no known way to counteract the personality transfer once it’s happened in canon.

Even Law being knocked out, an smoker in sea stone couldnt negate its affects. Greatest Power in the verse

 

[Cinera]

The strawhat is just a red herring. It's supposed to divert the reader's attention from Imu to the strawhat and make sure the fandome speculate about it rather than the shadowy figure(Imu).

Are you ignoring me?