Speculations The Alliance is poised to fail in Act 3

#1
I've been wanting to make this thread for a while, but I've been mainly waiting for the right moment to post it. Wano is a huge arc, so I figure I can put this out there now and build on it in the future if anything else supports it in the future. Anyway, I do believe we are being set up for something major happening by the end of this act, likely within the next 10-20 chapters (my guess is literally chapter 999). And in that sense, I do think the alliance will "lose" and the arc will shift to something more chaotic/stressful for Act 4. Below are my points.

1. Kabuki 5-Act Structure

- Let me admit first by stating that I am by no means an expert on Kabuki or the history of Kabuki. I merely googled the structure and got results.
- Generally the structure of Kabuki that seems to be the common consensus is like so pulled from this website:
  • Jo | First Act
    • A slow opening which introduces the characters and the story.
  • Ha | Second, Third and Fourth Act
    • It is the combination of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th act.
    • The second and fourth act consists of battles.
    • The Ha speeds up the action leading to a reat dramatic moment or tragedy in the third act.
  • Kyu | Final Act or Fifth Act
    • This act wraps up the story in a quick and satisfying conclusion.
- As you can see, we are on the 2nd Ha act, where the action is "speeding" up, driving us apparently to a "dramatic moment or tragedy".
- This is NOT guaranteed obviously, but its poised to be the idea that Oda will use act 3 to continue to drive the plot in such a fashion that leads us to the major battles in Act 4. I think we can all agree that Act 4 will be the major battles.
- Oda seems to be following this as Act 2 involved plenty of smaller skirmishes (Luffy and allies vs. Udon/Big Mom, Queen vs. BM, Sanji vs. Page 1, Sanji vs. Drake, Zoro vs. Killer, Zoro vs. Denjiro, Kaido vs BM)
- As the center point of my argument, I do believe that this is the track Oda is following. We probably still have another 10-20 chapters for Act 3 at this rate, but we can surely expect the battles to ramp up in Act 4 (maybe after Chapter 1000)

- Additionally, so far with every Act, there has been a timeskip. If the major battles are held off to Act 4, there is a possible chance another timeskip occurs.


2. Hawkins' Statement

- In Chapter 913, Hawkins tells Luffy that he only has a 19% chance to survive the month.



- This was a peculiar statement at the time, but it came more evidently clear that Wano's timeframe was going to last much longer than the literal day it took Dressrosa to be resolved or 2 days Luffy and crew were at WCI.

- Kin'emon mentions they will strike Kaido 2 weeks since Luffy arrival, at Onigashima. We are at this point currently.

- On top of this, it still serves as an ominous reminder that if Luffy "wins" right now at Onigashima, then why would Oda make Hawkins say he has a small chance of survival a month out instead of 2 weeks?

- In the end, I think it proves that there will be more going on in Wano beyond the raid, and we will find out soon....

3. Zoro's Sandai Kitetsu

- Also in Chapter 913. Zoro's peaked curiosity about Nidai is something that was touched upon until it was recovered and returned to Tengu.




- Yes, at the moment, Enma completely overshadows Nidai, but it still begs the question of why it was introduced and if Sandai is a worthy sword to still be carrying around.

- Will Zoro obtain this sword from Tengu somehow? There is a possibility he loses it during his final battle and only obtains it at the end of the arc, but could he lose it beforehand and obtain it during Act 4? This leads to my next point.

4. Tengu, Tama and Hiyori

- All 3 still have roles to play this arc. All 3 are technically not at Onigashima and currently do not have a reason to go there. Hiyori told the alliance that she would wait until they won. Tengu never joined in on battles and Tama was left behind with him.

- Tama still needs to find out about Luffy's connection to Ace. My guess is this will happen at a massively dramatic moment in the arc. Tama's ability also needs to be further explored, and may actually serve a purpose against the smile armies Kaido has.

- Tengu was randomly introduced to be an avid Kokeshi doll collector. This made zero sense until chapter 934:



- Firstly, now we know there is a Poneglyph guarded heavily in Orochi's castle. This will have to be addressed eventually.
- Secondly, the room was filled with Kokeshi dolls. The only other time this was mentioned was with Tengu.

- Who is Tenguyama? He still wears a mask and even kept Oden's swords close until his children were able to inherit them. We did not see him during the flashback either, which is very peculiar.

5. Oda's traditions

- Typically (pretty much every arc involving), Oda involves the population of a country/island into the main conflict, in that the populace is placed through the hardships of their country changing with them.

- With Arlong, its citizens watched as Luffy and crew fought and saved their town. They waited for their fates to be decided
- With Drum, the citizens actively took part in rebelling against Wapol.
- With Alabasta, a large portion of the country actively fought against the King's army based on a lie. Through this, Vivi essentially told the entire country to stop fighting
- With Skypia, the entire country was jeopardized due to Enel's powers. They all witnessed Luffy's victory.
- With Water 7, while Luffy and crew beat CP9 at Enies Lobby, Water 7's citizens supported Luffy and crew after they realized they didn't try to kill Iceberg
- With Dressrosa, the entire country was put under a life/death situation with Birdcage
- With WCI, much of the country felt the wrath of BM's hunger pangs.

- This is so far not the case with Wano. The majority of the country knows little of the conflict occurring, save for those part of the alliance. It would be very uncharacteristic of Oda to not involved mainland Wano as part of the conflicts.



6. The Theory

- I personally think Act 3 will end with some form of dramatic change to the plot or tragedy.

- This will include Kaido's goals or change to how dire the situation will eventually become in Wano. I believe this will involve multiple parts of Wano. Its possible all 6 regions of Wano hold the "key" to something related to the island and Luffy and his alliance will try and stop them.

- If you look, much of the background scenery in Wano looks like perfect places for major battles: The cold tundras of Ringo. The beautiful Sakura Trees of Hakumai. The wastelands of Kuri, Udon and Kibi. The main capital looks like it may be the centerpiece of a major battle.

- I believe this will cause a timeskip and segue the arc back to Mainland Wano, fulfilling Hawkins' prophecy of Luffy having a lower chance to survive.

- This will also give a plot reason to involve Wano's citizens around the country.



Tldr: Act 3 will cause a major shift in the Wano plot and force the entire battles back to mainland Wano, where another timeskip will occur and many of the battles will happen around mainland Wano until it cumulates to the Capital, where much of Wano's citizens will be involved by that point.



Edit: Here's another quick point.

7. BMP

- The group was again knocked off the waterfall, indicating they may not make the initial battles on time.
- A big point was made in 981 that BM did not know about the Waterfall Entrance



- Meaning, she is surely going to tell them to use this entrance in the future.

- If the battles take pace on Mainland Wano, then the BMP arriving at Hakumai without their ship via the secret entrance is a perfect, surefire way to have them get to the main battles quickly.
 
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#2
I agree, I do not think that the Alliance will be sucessful at taking on Kaido alone who hasn't even revealed his true power yet, even less two Yonkos.
It would also be lame if the Big Mom Pirates truly do not take part in the events in Wano and if they haven't at least some interactions with their Beast Pirates allies. I also think that Act 4 and the defeat of the Beast Pirates which may happen on the mainland will be due to the falling out of the alliance with the Big Mom Pirates.
 
#3
I agree, I do not think that the Alliance will be sucessful at taking on Kaido alone who hasn't even revealed his true power yet, even less two Yonkos.
It would also be lame if the Big Mom Pirates truly do not take part in the events in Wano and if they haven't at least some interactions with their Beast Pirates allies. I also think that Act 4 and the defeat of the Beast Pirates which may happen on the mainland will be due to the falling out of the alliance with the Big Mom Pirates.
To add to this, it gives much needed time for possibly "other" parties to join, mainly Sword if people like Koby are supposed to arrive all the way from Amazon Lily ( I still love the idea of Hancock becoming Koby's friend lol)
 
#6
The Rox pirates should be revived i don't see Kaido going down before Xebeck and Shiki make a come back that's why i believe this raid is definitely going to fail
I have a general theory that if Weevil/Bakkin/Shiki/Ochoku/Silver Axe (and maybe Xebec by some shock) do not show up this arc, it's very possible BM/Kaido survive the arc and propel the Rocks plot into something bigger.

I do think that if we have a timeskip between Acts 3 and 4, it does give a reason/time for Kaido/BM to contact them if bring them to Wano.
 
#8
I lowkey think Wano could propel into a more widespread war, where Big Mom and Kaido leave Wano and Onigashima with their crews and declare war on the Marines. Kaido did say he wanted to start the greatest war the world has ever seen.
Wano is going to be interesting because it's pretty much only the "first" of the Throne Wars. It implies that there may be more "wars" before the Final War even.


I'm extremely curious to know how this arc ends. There are so many possibilities
 
#10
At this point, I think Oda may go another 10 years
:gokulaugh:
Never expected anything less tbh.

If Kaido/BM go down here, it only makes this arc longer. If they don't, it makes whatever arc they do go down even longer. The time needs to be spent doing it. What is interesting is how Rock's even ties back to this plot overall. Is it bigger than we already have? Is this it?
 
#17
I said this on Reddit, but I'll say it here. This arc doesn't read to me like Alabasta where Luffy is going to have multiple chances at taking down the big bad. They've stressed multiple times that this raid hinges on succeeding RIGHT NOW.

This is more like Enies Lobby - they have one chance to take out the Kaido/Big Mom/Orochi alliance, or they lose.

If they don't win now, how are they going to escape and lick their wounds and try again? You think Orochi is going to give them that reprieve? Kaido likely would because he's itching for a good battle, but Orochi and Big Mom are DESPERATE to kill their enemies that nothing would stop them from hunting them down.

The battle might move to Wano proper (given the storms on Onigashima and the crystal clear skies in the Flower Capital), but this has to end right now.
 
#19
I said this on Reddit, but I'll say it here. This arc doesn't read to me like Alabasta where Luffy is going to have multiple chances at taking down the big bad. They've stressed multiple times that this raid hinges on succeeding RIGHT NOW.

This is more like Enies Lobby - they have one chance to take out the Kaido/Big Mom/Orochi alliance, or they lose.

If they don't win now, how are they going to escape and lick their wounds and try again? You think Orochi is going to give them that reprieve? Kaido likely would because he's itching for a good battle, but Orochi and Big Mom are DESPERATE to kill their enemies that nothing would stop them from hunting them down.

The battle might move to Wano proper (given the storms on Onigashima and the crystal clear skies in the Flower Capital), but this has to end right now.
What about hyori,Tama,The sword,Tengu etc...
 
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