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  • I was looking at some silhouettes of the Numbers, and I noticed that all of them are constantly laughing/smiling, except for 3 of them. Numbers 1, 2, and 3 don’t laugh/smile?
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    Shiroyru
    Would be really cool if these 3 Numbers had successful SMILEs, or even just regular Zoan fruits (which we haven’t seen at all in Kaido’s crew yet). I’d love to see them have the lion, tiger, and bear fruits
    Paperchampion23
    Paperchampion23
    At least one of them doesn't, the Vampiric looking one when they first were teased. I think we'll see them soon enough
    It’s very odd that Oda just didn’t give Brook, Chopper, and Usopp proper fights. All of the pieces were there. There were 9 main BPs, along with Perospero, which would conveniently let every SH get a proper 1v1. Even if Oda just really wanted Jack be be beaten by the Dukes, and not a SH, Oda could have just brought Smoothie and the BMPs to Onigashima
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    Shiroyru
    Jinbe would then fight Smoothie, and Brook could fight WsW. If Oda didn’t want Chopper taking out Perospero, he could also have Chopper fight either Daifuku or Compote. The rest of the BMPs could just fight the Heart/Kid Pirates offscreen so that they don’t take up panels and extend the arc too much
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    Shiroyru
    In the end, this really wouldn’t extend the arc by that much. Jinbe vs Smoothie can last only 1 chapter. Brook vs WsW and Chopper vs Compote/Daifuku would be 1 chapter each. Usopp vs P1 would be 1 chapter. And maybe Oda could dedicate a chapter to the Heart/Kid Pirates beating the rest of the ministers. Let’s say Oda takes an additional 3 chapters to set these up, and that would only be 7 extra chapters
    Would you rather see Chopper fight 3-4 of the remaining Numbers, or Daifuku? I don’t have faith that Oda will do the BMPs justice and let them fight the SHs, but if they do, I can see Chopper potentially fighting Daifuku and Brook fight Compote since both those SHs are fresh. Compote should be a Maria/Sasaki level opponent, so Brook would accomplish as much as Franky and Robin did
    Bruh why is Oda taking so long to reveal these Numbers? They’re not that special lol. Just let Chopper beat the last 3 of them with a PU
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    Shiroyru
    I think Number 6 will be taken down (by who, I don’t know), and this will prompt Apoo to summon the last 3. Maybe Chopper takes down Number 6 after his side effect wears off, and this will make Apoo summon Numbers 1, 2, and 3 so that they can “show the strength of Ancient Giants”. I want Chopper beat these 3 with a power up, but knowing Oda, they will all be unceremoniously one shot
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    Shiroyru
    I want Number 1 to have a successful SMILE, but I doubt it
    Midnight Delight
    Midnight Delight
    The 1-3 Numbers will have Utahraptor Dakotaraptor and Velociraptor Zoans
    Looking back at "Brook VS Who's-Who," I've convinced myself that Chopper VS Who's-Who was more preferable. I think Chopper is the strongest of the other six.
    Usopp’s “beating 10 giants” lie could be foreshadowing for him beating all the Numbers. However, when Usopp told that lie, it was when the crew saw those 3 giant shadows. Usopp told that lie to Chopper in order to encourage him and make him think that they could have taken on those 3 monsters. Maybe that’s foreshadowing for Chopper taking down 3 giant monsters (Numbers 1, 2, and 3)?
    Who do you expect to beat Perospero? Neko or Carrot?
    Paperchampion23
    Paperchampion23
    Idk. I personally would like Carrot to, considering she had far more of a personal relationship in the narrative to Pedro than Neko had. What's interesting is that Oda moved away from their fights when they have a time limit. Makes me wonder if Inu/Neko may not win those fights due to whatever reason Oda creates
    I wonder what the heck Numbers 1, 2, and 3 are doing. We saw a silhouette of one Number a while ago, so Number 6 is likely just busy fighting fodders. Did these 3 drink so much that they’re still passed out?
    Btw I'm interested in your powerscaling of the BPs. Do you think the bounties reflect their strength rankings? I'd say so. Sure age and other factors influence bounty, but I think Oda only uses those for determining how small the gaps should be, and not the actual bounty orders themselves. For example, if Maria was older, she would be closer to WsW's bounty, he would never let her reach WsW's bounty.
    Paperchampion23
    Paperchampion23
    By some order, maybe. But if we think of Bounties like how the strawhats have Bounties, and when you compare those to either Yonko crew, you see that the crews Bounties don't really reflect their true strength.

    Usopp's bounty is a running gag in one direction. Choppers is the same gag on the opposite direction. Franky only has 94 million, yet his fight with Sasaki is much more in line with Jinbe vs WsW.
    Paperchampion23
    Paperchampion23
    Zoro and sanji are fighting YCs with Bounties a billion over theirs, yet we don't presume to say Zoro or Sanji are 3-4x weaker than those YCs. It's all subjective.

    I think between the F6, their strength made sense to an extent. They lost early on, before someone like Peros. Not enough screentime though for pirates that are mostly over 4-500 Million. I think that's my actual issue with them and their portrayal
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    Shiroyru
    I think the SHs are an exception to the bounty rule. Oda likes to use their bounties for gags because they’re MCs and he can write a funny reaction out of their characters. That’s impossible for Oda to do with the BPs. It’s not like we know Maria’s character to well that we can say that 480, or any number for that matter, would be funny as a bounty for her. And Oda can’t draw them reacting to their bounties
    I remember you saying that Usopp may maintain a higher bounty than Robin and Franky by beating all 10 Numbers, but I don’t see how that can happen at this point. Franky and Robin are getting at least 500 million berry bounties since their opponents had borderline 500 million. Usopp currently has twice the bounty of those two, and he’ll need to do something much more spectacular than them to maintain that gap.
    Paperchampion23
    Paperchampion23
    I don't believe in powerscaling with this series lol. Not in the way people here like to assume exists. "High tier" is a made up fan designation. As is YC3, 2 and 1. As is "Veteran"

    I'm also not with the agenda that Usopp will fight and defeat Jack lol, as funny as that would be.
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    Shiroyru
    I think at least. YC3, 2, 1 are pretty accurate. King, Kata, and Marco all seem to be very close in strength, same for Smoothie, Jozu, and Queen, and Vista, Cracker, and Jack
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    Shiroyru
    Also I just have a feeling that Oda really wants to go for Usopp being the YC3 of the crew. Admittedly, Yamato does throw a wrench in that since she is very strong and very likely to join, but she currently looks even stronger than Zoro and Sanji, so it’s hard to see where Oda’s going with her
    Paperchampion23
    Paperchampion23
    Could be something. At this point i just need to see how the next chapter plays out. I'd say he has something to do with that, but it doesn't mean he can't be defeated by Jinbe now and it be addressed later. Really it comes down to what Oda feels like tackling
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    Shiroyru
    I don’t see how it can be addressed meaningfully if WsW is defeated. What would Oda do, randomly throw in a line about how WsW had authority over the Marys? It wouldn’t even matter at that point
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    Oda pitting Killer and Drake (Zoro and Sanji's Supernova opponents) against Kid's former Supernova allies is making Ice Oni Drake VS Chopper feel less likely to me. Perospero teaming up with King and Queen makes him my new prime suspect for Chopper's matchup.
    Do you still think Chopper fights Drake as his arc opponent?
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