General & Others Officially confirmed: Zoro is the vice captain

Are all these characters the 2nd strongest and vice captains of their respective crew/group?

  • Yes, it's obvious they are

    Votes: 162 83.5%
  • No, it's just a giant gargantuan enormous coincidence

    Votes: 32 16.5%

  • Total voters
    194
#1
It's over. Zoro is officially confirmed as right hand/vice captain/first mate or whatever you want to call the 2nd strongest in a group.
This was rather obvious, there is a shit ton of feats and portrayal from manga and databooks that are clear proof. A good 90% of people have always been sure of that, only a small minority dared to argue against the blatant evidence.
But now it's literally undesputable. Thankfully, Oda killed any remaining argument.



These characters (Marco, Shiryu, Ben Beckman, Rayleigh, Katakuri, King, Sabo, Killer, Bepo, Zoro) have nothing in common for Oda to put them together as if there was a precise reason.
Nothing in common; bar a single thing.
Being the obvious 2nds strongest/right hands/vice captain/first mates of their crews and groups.

The One Piece official account textually stated that Zoro and co are the Number Twos of their crews/groups.


It's time to face a simple reality: no mindfuckery and bullshit about roles (Zoro and Killer are listed as "fighters" but they clearly act as vice captains/right hands), or about relationships (Shiryu joined the crew later than other characters), or about age (Katakuri being younger than Perospero).

This is a shonen and Oda makes things easy. Strength means hierarchy. Hierarchy is because of strength. The strongest is the leader and the captain. The 2nd strongest is the right hand of the captain and factually acts as vice captain. Then there's the rest of the crew.

The only difference is between right hands/2nds that are very close to the captain and almost as strong as him (Rayleigh to Roger, Zoro to Luffy, Ben to Shanks, Killer to Kidd) and right hands/2nds that while stronger than anyone else in the crew are not that close to the captain (King to Kaido, Katakuri to Big Mom, Marco to Whitebeard).

The beginning draft of the cover shows Oda's intent maybe even better than the final one: all characters are drew in the same way, and to Marco, Shiryu, Ben Beckman, Rayleigh, Katakuri, King, Sabo, Killer, Bepo and Zoro there are also added Mr 1 (Crocodile's right hand) and Vito (Capone's right hand).
Again, all these characters have nothing in common bar the most obvious thing: being the 2nd strongest in their respective crew/group.



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#6
It's a shonen manga.
The second strongest is the vice captain.
The vice captain is the second strongest.

We now have concrete proof of this.
Oda's intent couldn't be clearer.
Lol that's not how every crew structure works.

Vice captain = first mate = second in command

WB pirates - commanders that share the same authority confirmed in SBS

Beast Pirates - 3 calamities

BM pirates - 3 sweet generals

The colour spread shows all the right hand men, but not all right hand men are vice captains.

The only vice captains are Zoro, Beckman and Rayleigh since Roger/Red Hair/Straw hats all mirror each other
 
#10
Lol that's not how every crew structure works.

Vice captain = first mate = second in command

WB pirates - commanders that share the same authority confirmed in SBS

Beast Pirates - 3 calamities

BM pirates - 3 sweet generals

The colour spread shows all the right hand men, but not all right hand men are vice captains.

The only vice captains are Zoro, Beckman and Rayleigh since Roger/Red Hair/Straw hats all mirror each other
The only difference is between right hands/2nds that are very close to the captain and almost as strong as him (Rayleigh to Roger, Zoro to Luffy, Ben to Shanks, Killer to Kidd) and right hands/2nds that while stronger than anyone else in the crew are not that close to the captain (King to Kaido, Katakuri to Big Mom, Marco to Whitebeard).

Out of that, King and Katakuri are 2nds to Kaido as much as Rayleigh and Zoro are to Roger and Luffy.

And that's why we have Zoro vs Mr 1 stile Luffy vs Ener, Zoro vs Kaku and Luffy vs Lucci, Zoro vs King and Luffy vs Kaido... always right hand/vice/2nd strongest battle themselves and captains/strongest battle themselves.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#12
It is not officially confirmed because I think Oda doesnt want to do that with Zoro because it simply isnt an achievement.
He could have confirmed it from the start since Zoro is the one fitting the most for such a position but he doesnt do it.
Also, Zoro isnt 2nd strongest. He is the strongest. That's another reason why making him into a VC isnt Oda's goal.

People have constantly confused Zoro with being a captain, Zoro himself wanted to take over as a captain...
Zoro's name will shake the world and reach the heavens through his own accomplishments.
Nr2 isnt fitting to Zoro, that's why he isnt officially a vice-captain.
 
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