Speculations It's Brook! (In Front of Zoro, and who the Gorosei were talking about.)

#1
Ok, so here me out, because I have an off the wall speculation that's about to transpire, but it fits so perfectly.

So this recent chapter we have learned that there is a figure that has appeared in front of Zoro, that looks exactly like the Grim Reaper. Suspiciously enough, this figure also happens to look exactly like Brook. Now currently, it doesn't make any sense as to why Brook would be standing in front of Zoro, with a giant Scythe, looking like he is ready to attack him. But what if there is a very plausible explanation to all of this? For that, we are going to have to touch upon a few other plot points.

So lets head back to the very last chapter (Chapter 1037). At the very end of the chapter, we have the Gorosei discussing a specific Devil Fruit that hasn't awakened in centuries. There has been many, many different theories as to what Devil Fruit this could be, but I think Oda gave us the clue at the very end of Chapter 1037 as well. While the Gorosei is discussing the prospect of this Devil Fruit awakening, we get a huge panel of Zunisha appearing off the Shores of Wano. One thing that this scene is reminiscent of, is the huge shadows that we saw on Thriller Bark.

I believe that the Gorosei discussing this specific Devil Fruit, in tandem with a scene reminiscent of Thriller Bark, was a clue that we had to head back to Thriller Bark to find the answer, and man did the answer come. So lets go back to Thriller Bark, shall, to a very specific chapter, discussing a very specific detail that we all have forgotten about. And that is chapter 443, where Brook is explaining his Devil Fruit.

Now in this chapter Brook explains that his Devil Fruit serves one purpose. To revive the user from death, only once. Now on the surface, that's an extremely lackluster ability, to where even Brook said that while he was alive, the only thing the Devil Fruit did, was make him unable to swim.



Seems like a pretty shitty fruit if you ask me, with a terrible payoff. You revive once, can't swim, and that's it. Even after 50 years alone, while on Thriller Bark, Brook still never managed to figure out anything special about his Devil Fruit. The fruit was named the "Revive Revive" fruit, and up until that point, it's only purpose was thought to be bringing the user back to life once. This all changes however, since post timeskip, we've learned that Brook has slowly been starting to be able to do more and more things with his Devil Fruit, that him, nor us, nor the people of the One Piece World thought was possible. This is completely inline with what the Gorosei were saying about this mysterious Devil Fruit that hasn't "Awakened in decades", because even though Brook had the fruit for 50 years, he still couldn't do shit with it, other than revive once.

This also fits inline with the naming of the fruit. The "revive revive" fruit, and the user can only revive once. If it's true name is hidden, then nobody is going to think that there is more abilities the fruit possesses. They eat it. They die. They get revived. They later die again. Nobody tries to explore the fruit any further. Brook however, has broken that cycle. He is now doing things with his Devil Fruit, that goes completely against what we were initially told the Devil Fruit can do.

Now lets fast forward back to the present. So in chapter 1037, we see the Gorosei freaking out over a Devil Fruit out of the blue. In the very next chapter, a "Grim Reaper" is in front of Zoro. A very random scene thrown in there, that doesn't really connect to the rest of the chapter. But I think, that scene is meant to connect to the ending of the previous chapter. The Gorosei gets a report that a "Grim Reaper" has appeared in front of Zoro, and all of a sudden, then next chapter, CP-0's orders were changed from capture Robin, to go after ALL of the Straw Hats. Everything is lining up perfectly.

So that brings us to, what is Brooks ability, and why is he standing in front of Zoro, looking like he's about to attack him. This is going to be a lot of speculating, but again, it fits. So one of the abilities that we've seen Brook be able to use since post timeskip, is the ability to be able to manipulate his own soul. But what if that kind of soul manipulation doesn't just stop at his own soul? What if he can see, and even manipulate the souls of other people? Now I know this borders on the edge of the exact same thing of Big Mom's devil fruit, but we also have to remember, that there are many fruits out there that bare similarities, that Oda has confirmed they are more so lesser/greater versions of each other. Oda has even already gone out of his way to pit Brook against Big Mom, and showcase that he possesses the ability to actually damage her soul based homies. Something, no one else alive can do.

So what is Brook doing in front of Zoro? Well, I think he is saving his life. I think Zoro is basically at the point where his soul is about to leave his body, and Brook can see it. The image we see of the "Grim Reaper" standing in front of Zoro, isn't actually the "Grim Reaper" nor is it Brook in his physical form. It is Brook in is astral. He's there to actually prevent Zoro's soul from leaving his body.

We already know souls leave their bodies once a person dies. We know Brooks devil fruit shows us a soul can be put back into a body, even after death occurs. So why can't the man whose own soul left his body after death, and then re-entered it, do the same for others? This also fills in all those "Death flag" theories that people have been talking about for Zoro for years. In essence, Zoro will have "died" but Brook will have brought his soul back to his body.

It all fits. Way to perfectly to be honest. That would only leave the question as to what else Brook can do with his Devil Fruit, and what is the devil fruit's name?

Edit: From a later post.

Another thing I found that I think is interesting that I want to put out there is another scenario we were shown on Thriller Bark.

In Zoro's fight against Ryuma, Oda did something pretty uncharacteristic at the time. He did a fake out by showing Zoro presumably losing the fight, and then proceeded to show what actually transpired soon thereafter.

The thing that strikes me the most interesting is how the scene actually plays out. It starts off by showing Zoro falling off the rooftop to the ground, and then switches to Ryuma standing atop the roof above Zoro, while shrouded in smoke.



Here we have a similar situation with Zoro laying on the ground, and Skeletal figure standing above Zoro, shrouded in smoke. The issue is, is that we don't know what transpired prior to this scene. Much like how Oda started off the fight against Zoro vs Ryuma. We didn't find out until after the fact.

The last we saw of Brook and Robin was well before Zoro and King's fight finished. We know that CP-0 was stalled from pursuing them, and we have no clue where they ended up in that timeframe. This is something Oda can rectify in a mini flashback, which would once again be reminiscent of Zoro's battle with Ryuma on Thriller Bark.

And here's the kicker. What so happens to be occupying Ryuma's body at the time, causing him to be animated? Brooks shadow
 
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#5
Nah.

First of all I'll plug because you mention thriller bark and admittedly there is a tie to Brook and Zoro that I'll get out of the way:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/why-who-it-isnt-is-important.21536/

Anyway
1. The gorosei thing makes zero sense. No one is around to see any of that shit

2. You bounce between shitting on the Revive fruit and explaining how we've already learned some of the reasons it's good. Can it awaken to revive someone else? That would be great. Except Brook is already with Robin. He wouldn't leave her to die to revive Zoro when he doesn't even know about the elixir. If we see this power it would be after CP0 kills her, which won't happen. Or it will be reserved for Luffy.

3. If Zoro is the king of hell, then who the hell is Brook? The king's dad? He may have help from Franky but his deal with the underworld will not be settled by a third party, not even Ryuma.
 
#9
Nah.

First of all I'll plug because you mention thriller bark and admittedly there is a tie to Brook and Zoro that I'll get out of the way:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/why-who-it-isnt-is-important.21536/

Anyway
1. The gorosei thing makes zero sense. No one is around to see any of that shit

2. You bounce between shitting on the Revive fruit and explaining how we've already learned some of the reasons it's good. Can it awaken to revive someone else? That would be great. Except Brook is already with Robin. He wouldn't leave her to die to revive Zoro when he doesn't even know about the elixir. If we see this power it would be after CP0 kills her, which won't happen. Or it will be reserved for Luffy.

3. If Zoro is the king of hell, then who the hell is Brook? The king's dad? He may have help from Franky but his deal with the underworld will not be settled by a third party, not even Ryuma.
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2) Never shit on the Revive fruit. Literally pointed out that during it's inception, Oda is the one who made it out to be a completely lackluster fruit. He's been showcasing it doing things that goes completely against what we were told. And the more he shows, the more hyped the fruit gets.

3) Zoro is not the literal "King of Hell". You acting like the dude went to the underworld, and fought Lucifer, or some shit.
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So his body is just sitting there on the battlefield next to a wiped out Robin. In that case why the fuck is he trying to scare Zoro instead of CP0?
Where the fuck do you get "scare Zoro" from, when in the post I literally say he's trying to save him? Also, Robin is already back on her feet.
 
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#11
1. Reporting King's defeat has nothing to do with pinpointing Zoro. You are saying that witnesses who report to the gorosei AND Brook somehow saw this or know enough to find Zoro. They saw where Clear Lance took him and kept watching that spot without actually doing anything? You really wanna die on that hill?

2. It's not lackluster though. Oda never made it sound that way, he merely didn't explain what else it could do. By the same token he hardly touched the abilities Luffy would gain from Gomu, but that's not the same as making it lackluster. We already know that Brook has decent powers, he's overall just a decently capable pirate, but now you're trying to pull a god tier ability outta his ass?

3. Zoro owns a masterpiece sword designed to kill the shit out of everyone it can. In taming it he learned how to apply adv Haohshoku, and now he's faced with the avatar of the underworld. Oh but it's actually fucking Brook?

4. He could appear as Brook or at least pull the hood down. But he raises a scythe above Zoro? Do you know what Death means, btw?

If you cut this bullshit immediately I'll be merciful when the next chapter drops.
 
#14
1. Reporting King's defeat has nothing to do with pinpointing Zoro. You are saying that witnesses who report to the gorosei AND Brook somehow saw this or know enough to find Zoro. They saw where Clear Lance took him and kept watching that spot without actually doing anything? You really wanna die on that hill?

2. It's not lackluster though. Oda never made it sound that way, he merely didn't explain what else it could do. By the same token he hardly touched the abilities Luffy would gain from Gomu, but that's not the same as making it lackluster. We already know that Brook has decent powers, he's overall just a decently capable pirate, but now you're trying to pull a god tier ability outta his ass?

3. Zoro owns a masterpiece sword designed to kill the shit out of everyone it can. In taming it he learned how to apply adv Haohshoku, and now he's faced with the avatar of the underworld. Oh but it's actually fucking Brook?

4. He could appear as Brook or at least pull the hood down. But he raises a scythe above Zoro? Do you know what Death means, btw?

If you cut this bullshit immediately I'll be merciful when the next chapter drops.
The only one who knows that king is defeated is cp0
 
#15
1. Reporting King's defeat has nothing to do with pinpointing Zoro. You are saying that witnesses who report to the gorosei AND Brook somehow saw this or know enough to find Zoro. They saw where Clear Lance took him and kept watching that spot without actually doing anything? You really wanna die on that hill?

2. It's not lackluster though. Oda never made it sound that way, he merely didn't explain what else it could do. By the same token he hardly touched the abilities Luffy would gain from Gomu, but that's not the same as making it lackluster. We already know that Brook has decent powers, he's overall just a decently capable pirate, but now you're trying to pull a god tier ability outta his ass?

3. Zoro owns a masterpiece sword designed to kill the shit out of everyone it can. In taming it he learned how to apply adv Haohshoku, and now he's faced with the avatar of the underworld. Oh but it's actually fucking Brook?

4. He could appear as Brook or at least pull the hood down. But he raises a scythe above Zoro? Do you know what Death means, btw?

If you cut this bullshit immediately I'll be merciful when the next chapter drops.
1) There is a multitude of ways Oda can go about bringing up how Brook could know Zoro's life is in danger.

2) Except, upon it's initial introduction, it was lackluster. Even Franky brought up the fact that it served it's purpose, and now all Brook is left with is being unable to swim.

3) Yes, because I said Brook is King of the Underworld....

4) Depends on how the ability works. If this astral form, is the form of the Grim Reaper, then that's just how he appears.
 
#16
Ok, so here me out, because I have an off the wall speculation that's about to transpire, but it fits so perfectly.

So this recent chapter we have learned that there is a figure that has appeared in front of Zoro, that looks exactly like the Grim Reaper. Suspiciously enough, this figure also happens to look exactly like Brook. Now currently, it doesn't make any sense as to why Brook would be standing in front of Zoro, with a giant Scythe, looking like he is ready to attack him. But what if there is a very plausible explanation to all of this? For that, we are going to have to touch upon a few other plot points.

So lets head back to the very last chapter (Chapter 1037). At the very end of the chapter, we have the Gorosei discussing a specific Devil Fruit that hasn't awakened in centuries. There has been many, many different theories as to what Devil Fruit this could be, but I think Oda gave us the clue at the very end of Chapter 1037 as well. While the Gorosei is discussing the prospect of this Devil Fruit awakening, we get a huge panel of Zunisha appearing off the Shores of Wano. One thing that this scene is reminiscent of, is the huge shadows that we saw on Thriller Bark.

I believe that the Gorosei discussing this specific Devil Fruit, in tandem with a scene reminiscent of Thriller Bark, was a clue that we had to head back to Thriller Bark to find the answer, and man did the answer come. So lets go back to Thriller Bark, shall, to a very specific chapter, discussing a very specific detail that we all have forgotten about. And that is chapter 443, where Brook is explaining his Devil Fruit.

Now in this chapter Brook explains that his Devil Fruit serves one purpose. To revive the user from death, only once. Now on the surface, that's an extremely lackluster ability, to where even Brook said that while he was alive, the only thing the Devil Fruit did, was make him unable to swim.



Seems like a pretty shitty fruit if you ask me, with a terrible payoff. You revive once, can't swim, and that's it. Even after 50 years alone, while on Thriller Bark, Brook still never managed to figure out anything special about his Devil Fruit. The fruit was named the "Revive Revive" fruit, and up until that point, it's only purpose was thought to be bringing the user back to life once. This all changes however, since post timeskip, we've learned that Brook has slowly been starting to be able to do more and more things with his Devil Fruit, that him, nor us, nor the people of the One Piece World thought was possible. This is completely inline with what the Gorosei were saying about this mysterious Devil Fruit that hasn't "Awakened in decades", because even though Brook had the fruit for 50 years, he still couldn't do shit with it, other than revive once.

This also fits inline with the naming of the fruit. The "revive revive" fruit, and the user can only revive once. If it's true name is hidden, then nobody is going to think that there is more abilities the fruit possesses. They eat it. They die. They get revived. They later die again. Nobody tries to explore the fruit any further. Brook however, has broken that cycle. He is now doing things with his Devil Fruit, that goes completely against what we were initially told the Devil Fruit can do.

Now lets fast forward back to the present. So in chapter 1037, we see the Gorosei freaking out over a Devil Fruit out of the blue. In the very next chapter, a "Grim Reaper" is in front of Zoro. A very random scene thrown in there, that doesn't really connect to the rest of the chapter. But I think, that scene is meant to connect to the ending of the previous chapter. The Gorosei gets a report that a "Grim Reaper" has appeared in front of Zoro, and all of a sudden, then next chapter, CP-0's orders were changed from capture Robin, to go after ALL of the Straw Hats. Everything is lining up perfectly.

So that brings us to, what is Brooks ability, and why is he standing in front of Zoro, looking like he's about to attack him. This is going to be a lot of speculating, but again, it fits. So one of the abilities that we've seen Brook be able to use since post timeskip, is the ability to be able to manipulate his own soul. But what if that kind of soul manipulation doesn't just stop at his own soul? What if he can see, and even manipulate the souls of other people? Now I know this borders on the edge of the exact same thing of Big Mom's devil fruit, but we also have to remember, that there are many fruits out there that bare similarities, that Oda has confirmed they are more so lesser/greater versions of each other. Oda has even already gone out of his way to pit Brook against Big Mom, and showcase that he possesses the ability to actually damage her soul based homies. Something, no one else alive can do.

So what is Brook doing in front of Zoro? Well, I think he is saving his life. I think Zoro is basically at the point where his soul is about to leave his body, and Brook can see it. The image we see of the "Grim Reaper" standing in front of Zoro, isn't actually the "Grim Reaper" nor is it Brook in his physical form. It is Brook in is astral. He's there to actually prevent Zoro's soul from leaving his body.

We already know souls leave their bodies once a person dies. We know Brooks devil fruit shows us a soul can be put back into a body, even after death occurs. So why can't the man whose own soul left his body after death, and then re-entered it, do the same for others? This also fills in all those "Death flag" theories that people have been talking about for Zoro for years. In essence, Zoro will have "died" but Brook will have brought his soul back to his body.

It all fits. Way to perfectly to be honest. That would only leave the question as to what else Brook can do with his Devil Fruit, and what is the devil fruit's name?
Bravo this is a splendid theory and a logically palatable one.. unironically brook is the only one who hasn't "trained" in the TS..

btw Grim reapers "guide souls" so it adds to what you say.. the Revive Revive fruit Hahah who would have thought

bravo again
 
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