Questions & Mysteries Did Zoro defeated Kuma in Thriller bark

[Fujishiro]

This is pathetic. You're so butt hurt by the fact Luffy couldn't do jack shit against Kuma and had to be saved by Zoro you had call out all your anti-ZKK boys to come help you out.

It's a simple question did Kuma succeed in capturing Luffy? The answer is no. He failed because of Zoro.

De·feat (dĭ-fēt′)
tr.v. de·feat·ed, de·feat·ing, de·feats
1. To do better than (another) in a competition or battle; win victory over; beat: "Whether we defeat the enemy in one battle, or by degrees, the consequences will be the same" (Thomas Paine).
2. To prevent the success of; thwart: Internal strife defeats the purpose of teamwork.
3. Law
a. To frustrate the enforcement of (a motion, for example).
b. To make (an estate, for example) void; annul.
4.
a. To dishearten or dispirit: The last setback defeated her, and she gave up.
b. To be beyond the comprehension of; mystify: How the children found their way back home defeats me.

Stay mad because Zoro figured out a way to defeat his opponent about needed to beat him in a physical battle.

Luffy couldnt do jackshit against Kuma because he was already on the brink before and unconscious after the wave. I mean you saw how fucked up Zoro was when he took his pain.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I wonder which one is more stupid, Zoro "defeats" Kuma or Zoro didn't lose to Enel.

 

[Kerkovian]

yeah he beat him but not on combat

Beat him in begging for Life.

 

[Hamlette]

The funny part is that Kuma didn't even go through with the agreement; the deal was Zoros life instead of Luffys, but instead of straight up killing Zoro he gave him a chance at surviving, so he lets him take Luffys pain. Kuma leaves before he could even see the result, whether he lived or died didn't matter to him, all that mattered was the straw hats proved their loyalty to Luffy. This is precisely why Zoro describes him surviving as a mercy from Kuma, because in reality.......what actually took place was not what was agreed upon. Kuma was not just in control, he was playing God in that entire sequence.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Beat him in begging for Life.

Was Kuma impressed or no. Wasn't everyone who found out, including Sanji, moved by the event?

Kuma was just testing the Strawhats loyalty, he had no intentions of killing or capturing Luffy. But the crew passed said test, so really it was a victory for the entire crew. But in no way did Zoro defeat Kuma, it's not like he said "if you survive this I won't kill Luffy"

Uh... that's a pretty close translation of what he said

Spoiler

But the funny thing is you say that he had no intention of killing them, just testing their loyalty... and then you say that he didn't know Zoro survived until they saw each other again, lol.



Which is it? And given his statement to Zoro about definitely dying and then Chopper's statement on Zoro being so close to death, how would he know Zoro would survive if his intention wasn't to kill?



What a can of worms lol. Because now that you mention it, do you think he was pretending to pick up Luffy in hopes that Zoro got up and offered his own life instead?

 

[Hamlette]

Uh... that's a pretty close translation of what he said

Spoiler

But the funny thing is you say that he had no intention of killing them, just testing their loyalty... and then you say that he didn't know Zoro survived until they saw each other again, lol.

Which is it? And given his statement to Zoro about definitely dying and then Chopper's statement on Zoro being so close to death, how would he know Zoro would survive if his intention wasn't to kill?

What a can of worms lol. Because now that you mention it, do you think he was pretending to pick up Luffy in hopes that Zoro got up and offered his own life instead?

If you're going to quote me then quote me properly, I said he had no intention of killing Luffy. And are you actually arguing that one of Dragons closest subordinates attempted to kill his son?. Kuma wanted to test to see if the straw hats were willing to die for Luffy, so he measured their loyalty to the highest level....and they passed. You also have to take into consideration that Kuma is undercover, if he just lets the crew off easy that will raise suspicion as to where his true affiliations stand. You have Kuma complimenting the loyalty of the crew that Dragons son had formed.....again.....do you actually think he wanted to kill the son of his captain?.

 

[Meeyori]

People using the fact that Zoro begged to diminish him gives me the same vibes as the people who used Sanji calling out to Robin to diminish him, like…it’s the whole point of those scenes and shows how they’ve grown lmao

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

the extent to which people would go to defend a garbage take because their favorite character is in question is amusing.

 

[faker]

Do Zoro fans think Sanji beat BM?

 

[Desa]

Title
Some Zoro fans thinks he beated Kuma in Thriller bark because they had an agreement

No

 

[fanboy]

Yes and he beat Sanji in Thriller Bark too.

 

[Rukusho]

Yes.

Kumas objective “capture Straw Hat Luffy” but he failed why ?

Cause of Zoro so yes Zoro bested Kuma.

 

[Kerkovian]

Yes.

Kumas objective “capture Straw Hat Luffy” but he failed why ?

Cause of Zoro so yes Zoro bested Kuma.

Bested

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

kuma had a seperate objective
to test the loyalty of the men under luffy
and did so by seeing if one of them could take his pain


he was never going to sell out dragon's son

Yes.

Kumas objective “capture Straw Hat Luffy” but he failed why ?

Cause of Zoro so yes Zoro bested Kuma.

he would annihilate the whole crew if he wanted
why give them the option of such a deal if he didn't have something else in mind.

 

[Rukusho]

Bested

ESL ??

verb
INFORMAL
past tense: bested; past participle: bested

1. outwit or get the better of (someone).
   "she refused to allow herself to be bested"​

 

[Hamlette]

ESL ??

verb
INFORMAL
past tense: bested; past participle: bested

1. outwit or get the better of (someone).
   "she refused to allow herself to be bested"​

Zoro: " I'm only alive because of your mercy"
Interpretation: Zoro outwitted and bested Kuma
:laughmoji:

 

[Albino 👑]

Zoro wanted to 1v1 kuma telling no one to but in only to get saved from loosing by someone butting in

The only clean loss i think oda has given him was enel. Most other times zoro's usually given some excuse as to why it doesn't fully count or isn't allowed to fight them.
Like zoro would have legit broke his promise if he legit fought fujitora like he wanted too lol

 

[Herrera95]

Nope. They made a deal. It was somewhat of a draw. Zoro was clearly weaker. He would have lost. But Kuma decide not to fight him but do that thing instead.

And the end was pure plot. Imagine how One Piece would be if both Luffy and Ace were set to be executed at Marineford. Zoro and Mihawk doing the Impel Down infiltration that Luffy and Hacock did. Other Strawhats getting there like Supernovas did. Revos joining to save Luffy. Sabo showing up early.

 

[mrtsrdr]

In the seabody , why did he beat Kuma then ? Luffy zoro and sanji attacked one pacifista and barely took down and you claim that zoro beat original kuma :) retards

 

[bennbeckman]

Kuma at that point would have negged Zoro even if Zoro was at 100 percent.

It was a moment of why The People love Zoro, his undying loyalty and fearlessnes