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problem is king is defeated easily by admiral.

Let recall.

Kaido one shot act 1 gear 4 luffy who beat katakuri

Same rooftop zoro outshine luffy and make noddle to delete his account . This guy block combined hybrid kaido amd big mom.

Then same rooftop zoro having harder time to beat king. Not to mention king rival kaido in durability. Flame mode increased his defense. Zoro need advanced coc to defeat king.

king beat act 1 gear 4 luffy.

You will get called as admiraltard by yonko fans if you think admiral low diff king before chapter 1053 came out.

Replace king instead jack . Then you have Yankers saying this feat inferior to big mom trashing queen or kaido one shot act 1 luffy.

Admiral low diff king is what create uproar and coping from yonko fans . Big mom don’t have feat to break king defense . Law has more chance to hurt king than big mom.
 
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#8
Admiral low diff king is what create uproar and coping from yonko fans . Big mom don’t have feat to break king defense . Law has more charade to hurt king than big mom.


Zoro was literally hurting King with flames on using ACoC, stop reading Agenda Piece. And I don't see any flames on King when Aramaki low-diffed him so if King's defense rivals Kaido in durability then either 1) GB low-diffed King in his glass cannon mode, or 2) GB low-diffs Kaido according to your logic. :whitepress:
 
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Zoro was literally hurting King with flames on using ACoC, stop reading Agenda Piece. And I don't see any flames on King when Aramaki low-diffed him so if King's defense rivals Kaido in durability then either 1) GB low-diffed King in his glass cannon mode, or 2) GB low-diffs Kaido according to your logic. :whitepress:
Or Kaido is massively stronger than King, so much so that King having one stat over him makes very little difference.

You can say that GB low diffed King but wouldn’t low diff Kaido.

I’m really not sure what you’re trying to argue here.
 
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Zoro was literally hurting King with flames on using ACoC, stop reading Agenda Piece. And I don't see any flames on King when Aramaki low-diffed him so if King's defense rivals Kaido in durability then either 1) GB low-diffed King in his glass cannon mode, or 2) GB low-diffs Kaido according to your logic. :whitepress:
“Zoro need advanced coc to defeat king”

I am talking defense , not endurance. Kaido has more endurance than king.

so you are saying big mom have advanced coa that she punch page one. You could argue that she could hurt king since advanced coa suppose to bypass durability. Yet she didn’t use Kidd or law for whatever reason.
 
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Or Kaido is massively stronger than King, so much so that King having one stat over him makes very little difference.

You can say that GB low diffed King but wouldn’t low diff Kaido.

I’m really not sure what you’re trying to argue here.
Your Admiral companion claims BM doesn't have feats to break King's defense which supposedly rivals Kaido to wank GB. Zoro literally cut King flame on with ACoC. BM uses ACoC.

If GB can low-diff King at somewhere close to fully recovered by just sticking some vines past his durability then Kaido would also get the same treatment due to their durabilities supposedly being "comparable."

The GB wank has gone to a point where fans are being disingenuous with claims by selectively ignoring Yonko feats, highlighting their worst moments, while ignoring all the times the Admirals were clowned by characters supposedly much weaker than them and propping up a feat that Yonkos have been shown to and could EASILY replicate.
 
#15
“Zoro need advanced coc to defeat king”

I am talking defense , not endurance. Kaido has more endurance than king.

so you are saying big mom have advanced coa that she punch page one. You could argue that she could hurt king since advanced coa suppose to bypass durability. Yet she didn’t use Kidd or law for whatever reason.
She used ACoC punch, she can ACoC period. If she needs to use it then she will. BM was unleashing her CoC as per Speed's words. She may very well have been off-panelling using offensive ACoC then decided to switch to using her offensive DF.

She is using defensive ACoC here.



The way she was using her DF, it didn't matter whether she used ACoC or not. Her ultimate moves are not ACoC based. Is that too hard for you to swallow? Kaido's ultimate move does not show any ACoC. Well now.:bamathink:

The same big mom can’t critical hurt Kidd even he is off guard.
‘Kidd has less durability than king.
That is problem
Or, and get this, maybe Kidd actually has better durability than King because he has better feats? Isn't this how you're supposed to powerscale? King lost to ACoC, Kidd tanked attacks that hit harder than ACoC punches. You do the math.
 
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#16
She used ACoC punch, she can ACoC period. If she needs to use it then she will. BM was unleashing her CoC as per Speed's words. She may very well have been off-panelling using offensive ACoC then decided to switch to using her offensive DF.

She is using defensive ACoC here.



The way she was using her DF, it didn't matter whether she used ACoC or not. Her ultimate moves are not ACoC based. Is that too hard for you to swallow? Kaido's ultimate move does not show any ACoC. Well now.:bamathink:



Or, and get this, maybe Kidd actually has better durability than King because he has better feats? Isn't this how you're supposed to powerscale? King lost to ACoC, Kidd tanked attacks that hit harder than ACoC punches. You do the math.
Luffy's Ultimate move relies on a lot of Haki. Damn, Luffy is really a haki based fighter all the way.
 
#19
Pretty much confirms what was known.

Yonko = fleet admiral > admiral >(>) yc1.

Logically, it should be

Imu > (>) Gorosei > yonko = fleet admiral

Let's see how oda will handle this.
 
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