Current Events How low does Kizaru stock go if he fights Sanji ?

#21
As low as Luffy's stocks will be when the cook gets to fight people on the same level as him. That's why you should know it's never going to happen. All of these theories have this crazy starting point, everyone stops growing and Judgeji suddenly jumps from below Vergo level to top tier. He's not catching up, he's not going to grow at a faster pace than conquerors, he lacks ambition and potential. :kayneshrug:
 
#27
We know if Sanji fights Greenbull, people will just easily claim Aramaki is the weakest Admiral. If thats not enough, they'll use the out of context Reverie scene for "proof".

However Kizaru is interesting. We have Oda soft confirming Kizaru > Aokiji, and a lot of fans even speculating Kizaru might beat Akainu. Its also strongly believed that the strongest current Admiral is Kizaru ( regardless if the others push him to extreme extreme diff).

But could this all change if he fights Sanji ? I mean he had to cheat against Marco. He couldnt insta neg Pre Timeskip Hawkins. Pre timeskip Apoo could cut him in half.

Could he end up far weaker than Fuji or Ryou perhaps and a tier below him. Perhaps even a low diff for Fuji/Ryou maybe suitable ?
Nothing will downplay someone who has speed of light. It's just if Sanji is able to fight him, then it's Sanji who will become that strong.
 
#29
Kizaru will most likely fight Zoro , but if he does fight Sanji , he could end up being a mid diff for Akainu

But GB has bigger chance to end up being a mid diff to Akainu
( Well , Aramaki's Forest DF is already arguably in disadvantage vs Akainu's Volcano DF )
 
#31
Kizaru will most likely fight Zoro , but if he does fight Sanji , he could end up being a mid diff for Akainu

But GB has bigger chance to end up being a mid diff to Akainu
( Well , Aramaki's Forest DF is already arguably in disadvantage vs Akainu's Volcano DF )
Nah. The Admirals are a monstrous fighting unit. They won't high diff each other let alone mid diffing imo. They should be close in strength overall.

You could argue that Kuzan's ice was a bad match against Akainu's magma but he still managed to push him to extreme diff. And besides, Aramaki should have strong enough CoA to imbue it into his plants so they won't get burned by Akainu as easily.
 
#32
Nah. The Admirals are a monstrous fighting unit. They won't high diff each other let alone mid diffing imo. They should be close in strength overall.

You could argue that Kuzan's ice was a bad match against Akainu's magma but he still managed to push him to extreme diff. And besides, Aramaki should have strong enough CoA to imbue it into his plants so they won't get burned by Akainu as easily.
Yeah mid diff is too low for now , even for Akainu vs GB - which i believe is the match of strongest Admiral vs weakest Admiral .
That's why for now at least , Akainu vs GB is a high diff .

Yeah maybe in a clash , Kuzan's ice is in disadvantage vs Akainu's magma in the same quantity .
The iceberg Jozu threw was instantly vaporized by Akainu's Daifunka .

But let's say if Aokiji and Akainu were to fight again right now , i don't think Kuzan will try to clash his ice vs Akainu's magma .

Kuzan will just try to freeze Akainu's magma :
He instantly froze the sea water between 4 Long Ring Long Land islands
- https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-319-page-9.html
- https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-319-page-12.html

And ofc he also instantly froze WB's tsunamis
- https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-553-page-4.html

So maybe he can freeze Akainu's magma as well - but it'll be harder than freezing water since magma is semi liquid and it's really hot unlike water .

Also he can possibly freeze Magellan's poison as well .
 
#33
We know if Sanji fights Greenbull, people will just easily claim Aramaki is the weakest Admiral. If thats not enough, they'll use the out of context Reverie scene for "proof".

However Kizaru is interesting. We have Oda soft confirming Kizaru > Aokiji, and a lot of fans even speculating Kizaru might beat Akainu. Its also strongly believed that the strongest current Admiral is Kizaru ( regardless if the others push him to extreme extreme diff).

But could this all change if he fights Sanji ? I mean he had to cheat against Marco. He couldnt insta neg Pre Timeskip Hawkins. Pre timeskip Apoo could cut him in half.

Could he end up far weaker than Fuji or Ryou perhaps and a tier below him. Perhaps even a low diff for Fuji/Ryou maybe suitable ?
I've always had fuji above kizaru anyway but yeah if sanji fights him then kizaru will get shit on, on this forum at least
 
#34
We know if Sanji fights Greenbull, people will just easily claim Aramaki is the weakest Admiral. If thats not enough, they'll use the out of context Reverie scene for "proof".

However Kizaru is interesting. We have Oda soft confirming Kizaru > Aokiji, and a lot of fans even speculating Kizaru might beat Akainu. Its also strongly believed that the strongest current Admiral is Kizaru ( regardless if the others push him to extreme extreme diff).

But could this all change if he fights Sanji ? I mean he had to cheat against Marco. He couldnt insta neg Pre Timeskip Hawkins. Pre timeskip Apoo could cut him in half.

Could he end up far weaker than Fuji or Ryou perhaps and a tier below him. Perhaps even a low diff for Fuji/Ryou maybe suitable ?
Which ever Admiral fights Sanji would be a tier below which ever Admiral fights Zoro.
 
#36
We know if Sanji fights Greenbull, people will just easily claim Aramaki is the weakest Admiral. If thats not enough, they'll use the out of context Reverie scene for "proof".

However Kizaru is interesting. We have Oda soft confirming Kizaru > Aokiji, and a lot of fans even speculating Kizaru might beat Akainu. Its also strongly believed that the strongest current Admiral is Kizaru ( regardless if the others push him to extreme extreme diff).

But could this all change if he fights Sanji ? I mean he had to cheat against Marco. He couldnt insta neg Pre Timeskip Hawkins. Pre timeskip Apoo could cut him in half.

Could he end up far weaker than Fuji or Ryou perhaps and a tier below him. Perhaps even a low diff for Fuji/Ryou maybe suitable ?
Cook's Admiral fight, if Lold even have the balls to pit the SHs against the Admirals, is Aramaki.

And even then Cook will win because of elemental advantage, not because of physical stats or haki.
 
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