Character Discussion Zoro will always be the opposition of the crew
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I mean, in a narrative sense, there must be someone who question the captain in all of his decisions.
Usually Usopp and Nami objects because of the scaredy acts, but they're emotional type character who is close to Vivi, so they can't be used. And thus Zoro is used. The same happened for Water 7 Usopp.
Of course, from a hater's point of view, Zoro as strongest member indeed looks like he has a thing with the 2 weakest members, Vivi and Usopp. LOL
Usually Usopp and Nami objects because of the scaredy acts, but they're emotional type character who is close to Vivi, so they can't be used. And thus Zoro is used. The same happened for Water 7 Usopp.
Of course, from a hater's point of view, Zoro as strongest member indeed looks like he has a thing with the 2 weakest members, Vivi and Usopp. LOL
Ace example was actually on point.
Zoro is smart ass to use that example to manipulate highly impulsive and emotional Luffy after all Luffy did say that.
Remember that they are pirates and have their own journey and can only intervene when situation is dire and Zoro remained Luffy exactly of this.
Yes, it's unfortunate ace died so one can say bringing up is bad but point is Luffy was absolutely right when he said those things about Ace just like what zoro said about ViVi
Zoro is smart ass to use that example to manipulate highly impulsive and emotional Luffy after all Luffy did say that.
Remember that they are pirates and have their own journey and can only intervene when situation is dire and Zoro remained Luffy exactly of this.
Yes, it's unfortunate ace died so one can say bringing up is bad but point is Luffy was absolutely right when he said those things about Ace just like what zoro said about ViVi
i mean when did this guy become right with his every judgement? i get it he likes to act smart and make sense, but he always been proven wrong.
The comparison doesn't work because Vivi is not some strong Commander of a Yonko Crew, who set out on her own Adventure like Ace was.
She's a weak Princess, probably thousands of miles (Plus a calm belt) away from home, who just had her father assassinated, and then went missing.
That screams she's in trouble.... Not out having an Adventure.
Zoro's not wrong about them not going to look for her, because that's damn near impossible, and that's how he should have phrased it. Not say "Remember what you said about that super strong Whitebeard Commander who set out on his own?"
Although I must admit, I'm not that mad at the scene due to Luffy's hilarious reaction to it.... That one got me....
She's a weak Princess, probably thousands of miles (Plus a calm belt) away from home, who just had her father assassinated, and then went missing.
That screams she's in trouble.... Not out having an Adventure.
Zoro's not wrong about them not going to look for her, because that's damn near impossible, and that's how he should have phrased it. Not say "Remember what you said about that super strong Whitebeard Commander who set out on his own?"
Although I must admit, I'm not that mad at the scene due to Luffy's hilarious reaction to it.... That one got me....
There was nothing wrong with the Ace example, that's when Luffy stated that belief(people should be free to have their own adventure even if dangerous) and Zoro was basically saying stop throwing away your belief because you are emotional. What ended up happening to Ace is irrelevent since he isn't trying to comfort the crew he is just trying to stop them from making a dumb decision like going all the way back to Alabasta or attacking Marine HQ for no reason
Of course vivi isn't strong as ace but point of bringing Ace up is manipulating highly impulsive Luffy from going to save vivi without clue.
Luffy made similar statement for ace and by using the exact words zoro tried to remind him that everyone has their own journey and they can't go around helping others when they don't even have clue. This is also detrimental not only for themselves but for others too
Just because Ace situation ended up resulting him being dead doesn't mean the call Luffy made was wrong nor it means same thing can happen to Vivi
Luffy made similar statement for ace and by using the exact words zoro tried to remind him that everyone has their own journey and they can't go around helping others when they don't even have clue. This is also detrimental not only for themselves but for others too
Just because Ace situation ended up resulting him being dead doesn't mean the call Luffy made was wrong nor it means same thing can happen to Vivi
Applies how?
They shouldn't go look for Vivi, because the World is massive, and it would be a damn near impossible task....
Not because "Remember you said Ace has his own Adventures to make."
Regardless.... The scene was made... It was pretty funny, but the comparison to what Luffy said about Ace doesn't work here.
They shouldn't go look for Vivi, because the World is massive, and it would be a damn near impossible task....
Not because "Remember you said Ace has his own Adventures to make."
Regardless.... The scene was made... It was pretty funny, but the comparison to what Luffy said about Ace doesn't work here.
and you think they will succeed ieven fighting 1 yonko? if they didn't come in WCI? means
they would fight without sanji, no sanji means someone in the strawhat will deal with Queen, kid will remain abducted since bigmom wont cause trouble in prisoners mine, robin and nami will be abducted by hawkins in the bathhouse, momo will die against king. and so on. that's what zoro want.
they would fight without sanji, no sanji means someone in the strawhat will deal with Queen, kid will remain abducted since bigmom wont cause trouble in prisoners mine, robin and nami will be abducted by hawkins in the bathhouse, momo will die against king. and so on. that's what zoro want.
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