Versus Battle Minato vs Tobirama

Who wins?

  • Draw or toss up

  • Minato extreme difficulty

  • Minato high difficulty

  • Minato medium difficulty

  • Minato low difficulty

  • Tobirama extreme difficulty

  • Tobirama high difficulty

  • Tobirama medium difficulty

  • Tobirama low difficulty


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#61
Minato wouldn't use sage mode in a battle, it didn't even occur to him to use it during the greatest war, he had to be reminded and he could only sustain it for one panel. He didn't even use it when he was killed by kurama. Sage mode is a non-factor in this fight.

Tobirama is the upgraded version of Minato. Give him nine tails chakra before he can stand a chance.
KCM minato stomps tobirama and is on par with Hashirama
 
#62
Yeah, he probably could get in a hit on base Hashiram in CQC due to superior speed. But the "fastest" title is often more attributed to FTG than the actual physical speed. We do actually know for a fact that Tobirama is faster than Hashirama on foot as well. But landing attacks takes more than just foot speed. You gotta strike faster than your opponent can react. If you refer to Bee vs Minato scene, for whatever it's worth, Bee reacted and pointed a blade at Minato at the same time as Minato appeared behind him. So even if you're faster than your opponents, it's still possible that they can react to your attacks if they're skilled and attentive enough akin to Bee.



It surely helps in increasing Minato's potency, but it comes at the cost of losing a bit of efficiency because it requires him to stay still at least for a bit to gather chakra. Tobirama could sense Senjutsu, and use that time to attack Minato. Minato is fully capable of holding off Tobirama even without Senjutsu, and Tobirama wouldn't need anything more than a big Rasengan to be taken out. Opting for Senjutsu is kinda counter-productive, especially considering Minato's terrible mastery over it.
Bee didnt react to Minato, he already had the blade their, he knew Minato was gonna appear behind... reason Minato said Bee could think as a Killer, aka, his new nickname, Killer Bee.
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KCM minato stomps tobirama and is on par with Hashirama
Base Minato stomps Hashirama already...
 
#68
Tobirama should beat alive Minato handily, he has better speed feats than even KCM Minato which is what they both specialize in and Tobirama was even weakened as an Edo Tensei which was directly confirmed by Madara.
 
#69
Tobirama should beat alive Minato handily, he has better speed feats than even KCM Minato which is what they both specialize in and Tobirama was even weakened as an Edo Tensei which was directly confirmed by Madara.

Where does Tobirama has better speed feats? When Tobirama literally said he was slower?
 
#70
Where does Tobirama has better speed feats? When Tobirama literally said he was slower?
Right here, his clone reacted to and teleported away Obito's TSB faster than Minato himself was capable of doing so, while Minato was in KCM mind you.

All Tobirama said was that Minato was better at teleporting iirc...better could mean many things and it's separate from a character's actual speed which is what I'm referring to.

And again, this is a nerfed Tobirama doing better feats than an amped Minato lol...
 
#71
Right here, his clone reacted to and teleported away Obito's TSB faster than Minato himself was capable of doing so, while Minato was in KCM mind you.

All Tobirama said was that Minato was better at teleporting iirc...better could mean many things and it's separate from a character's actual speed which is what I'm referring to.

And again, this is a nerfed Tobirama doing better feats than an amped Minato lol...
Tobirama plans ahead, Minato is faster in general and can teleport more frequently and efficiently.
 
#72
Right here, his clone reacted to and teleported away Obito's TSB faster than Minato himself was capable of doing so, while Minato was in KCM mind you.

All Tobirama said was that Minato was better at teleporting iirc...better could mean many things and it's separate from a character's actual speed which is what I'm referring to.

And again, this is a nerfed Tobirama doing better feats than an amped Minato lol...
Ahhahaha

Nerfed Tobirama? Just as Minato? Both Edo?

And no, Tobirama didnt say he was faster in teleport, it is shunshin no jutsu. They were running.... or how would he telepport if there wasnt no kunais?
 
#74
Minato is a very weak version of Tobirama, no contest here really.
Minato's only real strength is his teleportation jutsu, which he got from Tobi, thus I doubt this will prove to be as effective as it usually is.
We know Tobirama created edo tensei, a jutsu known by a very few. He is by far the most talented at creating jutsu, this alone puts him on a different league from any shinobi besides the naturally gifted Hashirama and Madara.

You will never find actual feats of him, but knowing that EMS Sasuke was scared shitless from a finger raise is more than enough. Madara also put him in the same light as Hashirama in the final war.
Pretty much, he's essentially a low budget blonde Tobirama.

- Superior Shunshin aka foot travel speed....... and this is what people are flexing lol.
... but...
- Inferior instincts/reactions
- Inferior body combat speed
- Inferior Justu arsenal
- Inferior chakra levels
- Inferior usage of combat FTG

Hiruzen sadly is pretty much the same as well:

- Superior Jutsu arsenal
... but ...
- Inferior instincts/reactions
- Inferior body combat speed
- Inferior chakra levels
- Inferior shunshin
- No FTG hax equivelant

Tobirama essentially is Prime Hiruzen + Minato. Is Kishimoto broke down Tobirama in half and gave some of his traits to create Minato and then others Hiruzen. lol.

The dumbest shit is Naruto is the this non-sense of "new generation surpasses the previous" when it applied to essentially Naruto's generation. All the 1st gens are superior, only mfin reason why the 3rd gen bum kages get hyped up as the strongest in all countries, is cause the Naruto-verse dumbasses don't know shit about the strength of people 40+ years ago.


Looking back at it now after 3 years, I think you're probably more right compared to me. It'll probably be Tobirama does low-diff in an actual battle. Minato would probably need KCM atleast to push it to a mid-diff.
 
#76
Tobirama's abilities' seemed a bit better than the likes of Minato, when they fought against the Ten Tails Obito - and - he was the only one who was capable of damaging the latter, I think.. indicating his likely superior prowess in combat, in comparison to the likes of Minato.
 
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