General & Others The more Oda hyped up the World Government, the lamer the BB Pirates look

#81
This thread will age poorly.

The BBPs are like the Straw Hats, they look shit at first, but then they show off what they can really do at the climax of the arc.

Look at Marineford and Impel Down, Teach almost died to Magellan, got injured by Pre Time Skip Luffy, but then he and his crew fought again the Old Legends together.


There's a reason why we didn't get to see any of the Payback War or the clash with the Revolutionary Army on panel, Oda is hiding what they're really capable from the readers.
And some of them will be Usopp-Nami's opponents, Oda can't make all of them super strong
 
#82
These threads will age like milk lol
I think everyone is portrayed "fine" and how they should be (regarding BB, Shanks, Akainu and their groups). I just think that is safer to assume the WG is being hyped as the "pinnacle" power of the series.

Its the entire reason for the RA existing, and even is the endgoal that Roger as PK couldnt achieve in his era. You put those things together and you can see why it makes more sense for someone like Imu to scaled to endgame.
 
#84
This thread will age poorly.

The BBPs are like the Straw Hats, they look shit at first, but then they show off what they can really do at the climax of the arc.

Look at Marineford and Impel Down, Teach almost died to Magellan, got injured by Pre Time Skip Luffy, but then he and his crew fought again the Old Legends together.


There's a reason why we didn't get to see any of the Payback War or the clash with the Revolutionary Army on panel, Oda is hiding what they're really capable from the readers.
Hmm, but thats effectively true for Shanks' crew and Akainu's military for the most part.

Now we have Gorosei and God Knights that havent even been explicitly shown yet. I think theres grounds to argue both sides, but if you reaply consider what the true purpose of the end of this series is, its not just becoming PK. Its surpassing Roger and doing what he allegedly couldnt.
 
#85
This thread will age poorly.

The BBPs are like the Straw Hats, they look shit at first, but then they show off what they can really do at the climax of the arc.

Look at Marineford and Impel Down, Teach almost died to Magellan, got injured by Pre Time Skip Luffy, but then he and his crew fought again the Old Legends together.


There's a reason why we didn't get to see any of the Payback War or the clash with the Revolutionary Army on panel, Oda is hiding what they're really capable from the readers.
But the Straw Hats never get treated anywheres near as bad as the Blackbeard pirates do.

Like the Blackbeard pirates have never looked good on panel is what I’m saying. No one’s ever running away because it’s the Blackbeard pirates. 9 times out of 10 they’re the ones getting wrecked.

It happened in amazon Lily, it happened with Kuzans flashback, it happened in Marineford and impel down, and it happened in the law fight.

I’m not saying the BB Pirates won’t eventually look good, I’m saying oda has currently done an abysmal job at hyping them up. Outside of teach and kuzan, all of the BB Pirates have been background characters who do nothing but get one shot to hype other people up. Like fuck teach and his crew got blitzed and bitch slapped by Bepo… who was treated as a joke for the manga till then.

Like I don’t get how that’s not a valid complaint to some people.
 
#87
It looks like your PTSD erased DFless Teach scarring Shanks's Haki defense, showing better attack power with barehands than Jinbe, and Teach without Quake DF 1 handed blocking a mountain slash vs SHawk, and creating ZZT effects while attacking Law's submarine. :milaugh:

BB made a deal to take his men back and kidnapped Koby and Rayleigh admitted he got lucky BB accepted the deal, didn't leave his HQ Hachinosu to Rayleigh, ''Actually did better'' sounds like a dumb person talking, wait this is blazing bitch of course he is.
Back to your retard shit, Bearded Bitch Wanker, one of us is gonna get banned this time for sure.

BB was scared of S-Hawk, BB was scared of Rayleigh, he left without getting the thing that he travelled all the way for from New World to Paradise.

Rev Army relocated their base after destruction of Baltigo. BBPs came to Baltigo as well as the CP0, there was no point in keeping that island their base anymore when it was discovered by pirates and the WG. And BBPs like the bitches they are took another L, that too, from CP0, they ran away. Fucking crew of losers, born to take Ls. Their strongest guy, Aokiji, took an L from Akainu and left the marines. Imagine running away from Kalifa and Blueno.
 
#88
Yes.

And the reason is simple: they are not the endgame enemies.

Oda can't make them too strong even for that.

I really don't give a fuck about that and them, after Boa and Kuzan they are clown for me, i only hope that the Nika vs Teach will be epic.
 
#89
Blackbeard and the BBP are not threatening at all. The whole Joy boy reveal + the Law’s and Amazon Lilly fight make them seems average in compatissons to the Strawhat

Oda’s is to blame tho. The “Clumsy clownish vilain that got everything thanks to plot” can only go this far.

Tbf Oda will probably make them have good feats against the strawhats but that will not allows them to be memorable imo. Oda is doing a better job with Imu and the gorosei in that department.
 
#90
Back to your retard shit, Bearded Bitch Wanker, one of us is gonna get banned this time for sure.

BB was scared of S-Hawk, BB was scared of Rayleigh, he left without getting the thing that he travelled all the way for from New World to Paradise.

Rev Army relocated their base after destruction of Baltigo. BBPs came to Baltigo as well as the CP0, there was no point in keeping that island their base anymore when it was discovered by pirates and the WG. And BBPs like the bitches they are took another L, that too, from CP0, they ran away. Fucking crew of losers, born to take Ls. Their strongest guy, Aokiji, took an L from Akainu and left the marines. Imagine running away from Kalifa and Blueno.
Luffy's one-eyed marimo head bitch wankers are in no position to talk shit about other characters blazing bitch, pathetic how you wank Luffy's underling but hate on Luffy thats you ZKKtard weirdos.

To say that Teach was scared of Shawk proves how retarded ZKKtards are.

Teach was surprised to see a new PX with Lunarian traits since Teach is much smarter than your retarded idol Zolo, Teach was suprised to see a new PX thats also Lunarian, then ragdolled him without even using Quake DF, you must be retarded as usual to lie about Teach being scared of Shawk when Teach kidnapped Koby when 2 Seraphims on the island, thats your classic ZKKtard hating on other characters with no logic.

Teach had nothing to fear about Rayleigh he was simply surprised to get caught in a situation where he needs to fight Hancock + Rayleigh in 2 v 1, if Teach was scared, Rayleigh wouldn't admit he would lose dumbass,

If you are scared of someone you have no chance of winning since you don't know anything about real fighting you might think that, the reality is Rayleigh confirmed Teach wasn't scared, thats why Rayleigh admit he couldn't win despite 2 v 1. Being surprised and being scared 2 different things.

Look troll. You compare completely different things.

1- Revolutionary HQ gets destroyed by BB pirates, and they leave to Kamabakka.

Amazon Lily is not BB's island, is your ZKK level head understand the difference? Hachinosu is Bb's HQ island not Amazon Lily, this is your first stupid comparison.

2- Secondly, Teach never admitted he couldn't win vs. Dragon you dumbass.

Rayleigh admitted he couldn't win even when Hancock was helping in 2 v 1 and Teach's men were stone and couldn't use Quake DF to fight, he would shatter his own men. Rayleigh still admitted he couldn't win.

When Teach admitted he couldn't win vs Dragon? This is why you are a liar and ZKK level troll as usual.

3- Who did Dragon kidnap before leaving? Teach kidnapped ''Hero'' Koby despite 2 Seraphims on the island there to protect him, Dragon left completely empty hands with his HQ island getting destroyed. Of course ZKk level brain won't understand difference and hating on other characters while wanking Luffy's underling one-eyed marimo.
 
#91
Possibilities:
*Caribou rats to BB the location of the two ancient weapons.
*Blackbeard eats a mythical zoan as his third fruit and has awakened all of them.
*Blackbeard knows a trick to awaken the fruits.All BBP members have their DF awakened.
 
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#92
Blackbeard and the BBP are not threatening at all. The whole Joy boy reveal + the Law’s and Amazon Lilly fight make them seems average in compatissons to the Strawhat

Oda’s is to blame tho. The “Clumsy clownish vilain that got everything thanks to plot” can only go this far.

Tbf Oda will probably make them have good feats against the strawhats but that will not allows them to be memorable imo. Oda is doing a better job with Imu and the gorosei in that department.
It would have been better if Marco and Izo made a statement hyping them up
The anime even implied Blackbeard solo'd making his crew seem useless
 
#93
Thats exactly the point of the Blackbeard pirates. Oda wants the fans to underestimate him. Until now he never seemed to fullfil a task unscratched, he always got damaged and beaten up heavily, always. But on the other hand thats what makes him so dangerous: you think your good when facing him, but your not. Cause at the end he always manages to get to his goals.

Everyone who is a little intelligent knows to go all in into Blackbeard stocks right now. They were never as low as now, and they will reach heights the world government can only dream of. I swear Im and Gorosei are frauds, Admirals will carry the wg all the way.
I always thought that Blackbeard is very different from the other villains of OP

He is a villain made to be underestimated, to have people look down on him. Undrrdog villain, pre timeskip that's what happened and guess what he broke some of the most dangerous prisoners, is the only person to have obtained a second df = break the rules of the verse and became one of the top 4 pirates

Some interesting scenarios ahead with them being in Egghead while a Marine invasion is taking place with Saturn personally there too. The end of Egghead can take another huge shift
 
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#94
Possibilities:
*Caribou rats to BB the location of the two ancient weapons.
*Blackbeard eats a mythical zoan as his third fruit and has awakened all of them.
*Blackbeard nows a trick to awaken the fruits.All BBP members have their DF awakened.
I like the theory of Blackbeard finding a way to force awaken the devil fruits of all his commanders. Now that would make his crew stand out.
 
#95
Whats crazy to me is how personally hyped i was pre-TS for them, because you let your imagination run wild with these monsters when they all showed up at Marineford.

But what was weird was how since Dressrosa, Oda has sort of hurt them in terms of portrayal and I dont understand why. I get scaling just had been upped by Doflamingo, Kata and Kaido, but I kinda wished his crew was kept a little more consistent to being above other contemporaries or at least maintained a level of danger save for key points

- Making Jesus look powerful at first, but then a joke against Sabo. His new power is cool though, if a bit uninspired.
- Giving Shiryu invisibility to go along with his cunning guile is fine, but when all you have killed is fodder by tricking them, its weird.
- Catarina's is fine, but really just Bon Clay's power but better. We'll have to see what other powers her mythical has. I disliked that Hancock made her and Shot into Jokes.
- Doc Q and Auger are appropriate id say, and Auger's power is more complementary like Shiryu's might be too (to amplify their sniping and swordsmanship), but just "look" underwhelming so far
- Wolf's is fine too, its been known for years and works for him, but he hasnt been shown to do anything yet as the worlds biggest human.
- Avalo's is cool, but need to see more. Vasco's implied to be unique but again, same issue.
- Dont know what Laffite even is.
- Aokiji is Aokiji, but he froze like half the crew lol

When account for not being able to take Hancocks power, or the fact that Law got away, and compare that to someone like Shanks' portrayal onscreen in similar scenarios, its just blatantly off.

But...theres also the fact that they are also purposefully underestimated and comical, similar to Luffy. I get this for sure.

However, even if you compare Blackbeard to Shanks to Akainu, I really dont think any stack up to the "enigmatic" portrayal of Imu and the Gorosei last chapter. We still arent 100% sure they are THAT strong (just enough to significantly hurt Sabo as a logia), but I have a big feeling they will be, especially after how Dragon singled out their subordinates (God Knights)
Lolda's biggest problems are two.

Firstly, he wants his readers to do the characters hyping for him. He did this to justify "Narratives > Everything" mindset, which is unendingly stupid to begin with because this means he can justify Woop Slap soloing the verse if his so called "narratives" require it. He kept making the BBPs job by arguing "Oh, well, they will be strong when the SHs face them, anyway" without even thinking, if any Tom, Dick, and Harry can beat the BBP members, the SHs doing it later will not be as impressive as it's supposed to be.

Secondly, his thinking is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too inflexible. This is true with all Yonko crews so far. Instead of making the powers of the Yonkos and their top officials frightening too boot, he kept choosing to stick with his limited creativity.

Big Mom's soul power literally requires people to be afraid of her, thereby nullifying its effectiveness against many, many named characters right off the bat. A limitation like "She has to be able to touch you directly to take your soul" makes more sense because this means she can steal your soul whether or not you are scared.

Kaido's dragon power should have been dark matter instead of generic fire. His YCs DFs are all fucking stupid and irrelevant.

This is also true with Teach. Okay, maybe Gura Gura has limited use, but using Yami Yami simply for "Absorb, pull, and nullify" is in itself stupid. Yami Yami should have allowed Teach to control dark element itself, including shadows like Moria but stronger, like being able to move through the shadows or to hurt you directly by attacking your shadows (imagine if his opponent evades his quake punch only for him to aim another shot at their shadows and kill them by destroying their shadows) or creating a dark world/zone where staying too long in it will cause you to be absorbed by the dark world/zone (and eventually by Teach himself). But all he's doing with it is Kurouzu. :lawsigh:

His crew, as you said it, was already fucked by Lolda even before this arc started. Shiryu should have had the Diamond DF, Wolf should have been our first giant Logia (something like Mineral/Crystal DF would have been cool), and Pizzaro should have had a saber-tooth DF. I don't know what kinda alcohol Vasco can do, but it's bound to be stupid.

It's like, damn, Lolda is making @Blackbeard's crew looks fucking underwhelming on purpose.
 
#96
Hype up used to mean making someone or something look great.

Nowadays hype up is making someone look like a coward (Shanks and Teach) weak (Admirals, Gorosei and Imu) or loser (Kid and Law).
 
#97
Luffy's one-eyed marimo head bitch wankers are in no position to talk shit about other characters blazing bitch, pathetic how you wank Luffy's underling but hate on Luffy thats you ZKKtard weirdos.

To say that Teach was scared of Shawk proves how retarded ZKKtards are.

Teach was surprised to see a new PX with Lunarian traits since Teach is much smarter than your retarded idol Zolo, Teach was suprised to see a new PX thats also Lunarian, then ragdolled him without even using Quake DF, you must be retarded as usual to lie about Teach being scared of Shawk when Teach kidnapped Koby when 2 Seraphims on the island, thats your classic ZKKtard hating on other characters with no logic.

Teach had nothing to fear about Rayleigh he was simply surprised to get caught in a situation where he needs to fight Hancock + Rayleigh in 2 v 1, if Teach was scared, Rayleigh wouldn't admit he would lose dumbass,

If you are scared of someone you have no chance of winning since you don't know anything about real fighting you might think that, the reality is Rayleigh confirmed Teach wasn't scared, thats why Rayleigh admit he couldn't win despite 2 v 1. Being surprised and being scared 2 different things.

Look troll. You compare completely different things.

1- Revolutionary HQ gets destroyed by BB pirates, and they leave to Kamabakka.

Amazon Lily is not BB's island, is your ZKK level head understand the difference? Hachinosu is Bb's HQ island not Amazon Lily, this is your first stupid comparison.

2- Secondly, Teach never admitted he couldn't win vs. Dragon you dumbass.

Rayleigh admitted he couldn't win even when Hancock was helping in 2 v 1 and Teach's men were stone and couldn't use Quake DF to fight, he would shatter his own men. Rayleigh still admitted he couldn't win.

When Teach admitted he couldn't win vs Dragon? This is why you are a liar and ZKK level troll as usual.

3- Who did Dragon kidnap before leaving? Teach kidnapped ''Hero'' Koby despite 2 Seraphims on the island there to protect him, Dragon left completely empty hands with his HQ island getting destroyed. Of course ZKk level brain won't understand difference and hating on other characters while wanking Luffy's underling one-eyed marimo.
Lol, where did you get the Luffy hater thing? Bearded Bitch Wanker
BBPs neg diffed by Magellan, gets saved by Shiryu. Delusional wanker take: BB soloed Magellan
BB scared of Oldbeard, had to gang up with whole crew to finish him when Akainu did 99% of the work, maybe that's why BB ran from him.
BBPs ran from Shanks
BBPs ran from Akainu, leaving behind Bonney. Delusional wanker take: BB was not scared
BBPs ran from CP0, imagine running from Kalifa and Blueno
BB ran from Ray, while he had Boa in a chokehold. Delusional wanker take: It was 2v1, BB was not scared
Garp is raiding BBPs base.

Why is BB scared of old guys like WB and Ray, were they grooming him earlier. Maybe Garp is pissed he didnt get his chance and is now raiding Beehive.
 
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