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Yoho

Ruthlessness is Mercy upon yourself
Loki on the crew would be pretty awkward, he would need his own boat, too big for Sunny

Sounds like a hassle for Oda
We got the strength, knowledge and material needed to build a massive ship while I think Loki doesn't really fit with the dynamic of the crew, and strength wise it'll shake things up as well kf he's as strong as he's being portrayed

I'd rather him be a whitebeard esq rival to Luffy and if he does join he should stay back in Elbaf has its protector just like Yamato stayed back in wano
 

Mr. Reloaded

Cause a pirate is free
Lol. I don't know how you got from what I said that I was trying to hype up Katakuri. Whatever.
Kat only got CoC but Oda wanted the arc villain to look cool, not because it had any deep meaning behind it.
Yamato is also in the same boat having CoC just because her daddy has it btw, the point is you don't need a deep reasoning to be a Conqueror and looking for one is futile. If Scopper Gaban the #3 of the Pirate King can have it, so can Law who is very much going to be relevant going into endgame lol.
 
Zoro coc technique: Asura :shocked:
You’re (probably) joking but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a CoC-related technique

We don’t have the summary or the raws but if Luffy says that Zoro’s haki has been leaking throughout their entire journey then that would explain all of his “demon” techniques

Iirc certain characters have said they felt something or saw weird things when Zoro used techniques like that

Would be the perfect explanation
 
Haki should've never gone beyond the basics Oda had Rayleigh explain.

It's VERY clear - at least to me - Oda hadn't figured out what he wanted yet.

It serves an obvious purpose in making it so DFs and Seastone weapons weren't the only relevant way of fighting fire with fire.

If Oda knew what he knew now, I have no doubt most, if not all, of the Strawhats would've had Haki post-skip.
I keep on saying this, but I’m pretty sure ad COC was probably always supposed to be an immortality counter and not an upgrade COA.

It’s just that Oda couldn’t think of way to have Luffy beat Kaido
 

Yoho

Ruthlessness is Mercy upon yourself
Kat only got CoC but Oda wanted the arc villain to look cool, not because it had any deep meaning behind it.
Yamato is also in the same boat having CoC just because her daddy has it btw, the point is you don't need a deep reasoning to be a Conqueror and looking for one is futile. If Scopper Gaban the #3 of the Pirate King can have it, so can Law who is very much going to be relevant going into endgame lol.
Good chance Yamato got advanced conquerors beaten into her
 

Kizaruber Eats

Joyboy reveal when?
You’re (probably) joking but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a CoC-related technique

We don’t have the summary or the raws but if Luffy says that Zoro’s haki has been leaking throughout their entire journey then that would explain all of his “demon” techniques

Iirc certain characters have said they felt something or saw weird things when Zoro used techniques like that

Would be the perfect explanation
Kaido thought Asura was CoC when Zoro used it against him too:



 
1. CoC doesn't make coA obsolete. Oda messed up by having regular coA provide a physcial buff to attacks. If he did not do that then advanced coA would have made sense. CoA should have only been to bypass fruit abilities and defense while advanced coC should have been complete upgrade on offense.

2. Future sight is stupid since basic observation haki provides recognition

3. Your last point still didn't make sense since it was still a hypocritical response since you only responded to me due to fictional characters
1. If Oda hadn't expanded beyond Rayleigh's explanation, that's what it would be, but he did expand, and CoC therefore is a superior version of CoA that makes the latter feel obsolete. He could've made it so CoC Infusion required CoA Imbuement and/or Emission, but it is what is.

2. Sure, but basic Haki doesn't let you see the future. imo, those abilities rarely add anything worthwhile to fiction. I'd rather it to be exclusive to a specific person or two than something the uber strong can potentially unlock.

3. I responded because you owned yourself. You're not the first person to cope with AI in this thread. :suresure:
 
You’re (probably) joking but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a CoC-related technique

We don’t have the summary or the raws but if Luffy says that Zoro’s haki has been leaking throughout their entire journey then that would explain all of his “demon” techniques

Iirc certain characters have said they felt something or saw weird things when Zoro used techniques like that

Would be the perfect explanation
I was just joking about the unique mangekyou-esque CoC techniques

But I’ve always been adamant asura has something to do with CoC
 
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