Theory Wang Zhi was the predecessor of Buggy

#1
So far Wang Zhi has no good feats or portrayal. He killed Marlon and captured Shakky, which is alright, but how was this man able to hold Hachinosu for so long?

One possibility is that he had something similar to Cross Guild going on. Roger, WB, BM, Kaido, and Shiki were all monsters in their own right. They amassed powerful crews and became emperors or beyond.

But what about the other Rocks pirates that didn’t have strong crews? John, Kyo, Barbell, Ganzui, Gil Bastar, etc.?

I think it’s possible that the Rocks remnants that didn’t become emperors teamed up, as Cross Guild did.

This is why Wang Zhi was called the “pirate guru”. He was a figurehead captain like Buggy. John and Kyo were likely the heavyweights of the crew, analogous to Crocodile and Mihawk. Loki could have also been part of this organization before he was captured.

Ultimately as the pre skip yonko: Kaido, BM, and Shanks grew in prominence, Wang Zhi’s crew got older and weaker. Folks like John, Ganzui, and Gil died off. This led to his crew being on its last legs by the pre skip, with Teach ultimately finishing them off at Rocky Port.
 
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#2
"Has no good feats" (...) "He killed Marlon".
Killing a probably Yonko Commander level character is already pretty nice to me.

"Law vs Barbell" you're just making things up.
 
#3
"Has no good feats" (...) "He killed Marlon".
Killing a probably Yonko Commander level character is already pretty nice to me.
Marlon could have been weaker than Bege for all we know. Plus we don’t know if he got help or cheap shot him.

Ultimately the others were shown as rivals of each other, whereas Wang Zhi just seems like a rat.
 
#4
No

Rocks only recruited people he knew were strong. And Wang shi was one of the earliest recruits. He was a Rocks pirate before even meme iirc.

He is strong. Also, it took BB and Law to beat him.
 
#5
Rocks wouldn´t have recruited if so
but how was this man able to hold Hachinosu for so long?
No one wanted it enough

One possibility is that he had something similar to Cross Guild going on. Roger, WB, BM, Kaido, and Shiki were all monsters in their own right. They amassed powerful crews and became emperors or beyond.

But what about the other Rocks pirates that didn’t have strong crews? John, Kyo, Barbell, Ganzui, Gil Bastar, etc.?

I think it’s possible that the Rocks remnants that didn’t become emperors teamed up, as Cross Guild did.

This is why Wang Zhi was called the “pirate guru”. He was a figurehead captain like Buggy. John and Kyo were likely the heavyweights of the crew, analogous to Crocodile and Mihawk. Loki could have also been part of this organization before he was captured.
It was said that the Rocks pirates no longer want to tell their story meaning none of them getting along. This wouldn´t be true if 5 of them were still working together.
I think perhaps Rocky Port could have been Teach vs Kyo, Koby vs Wang Zhi, and Law vs Barbell.
Is this thread just Koby wank? He hasn´t beaten any major pirate in 1v1. not even if they were a fraud.
 
#6
So far Wang Zhi has no good feats or portrayal. He killed Marlon and captured Shakky, which is alright, but how was this man able to hold Hachinosu for so long?

One possibility is that he had something similar to Cross Guild going on. Roger, WB, BM, Kaido, and Shiki were all monsters in their own right. They amassed powerful crews and became emperors or beyond.

But what about the other Rocks pirates that didn’t have strong crews? John, Kyo, Barbell, Ganzui, Gil Bastar, etc.?

I think it’s possible that the Rocks remnants that didn’t become emperors teamed up, as Cross Guild did.

This is why Wang Zhi was called the “pirate guru”. He was a figurehead captain like Buggy. John and Kyo were likely the heavyweights of the crew, analogous to Crocodile and Mihawk. Loki could have also been part of this organization before he was captured.

Ultimately as the pre skip yonko: Kaido, BM, and Shanks grew in prominence, Wang Zhi’s crew got older and weaker. Folks like John, Ganzui, and Gil died off. This led to his crew being on its last legs by the pre skip, with Teach ultimately finishing them off at Rocky Port.

I think perhaps Rocky Port could have been Teach vs Kyo, Koby vs Wang Zhi, and Law vs Barbell.
Koby didn't fight Wang Zhi it was specifically said that it was Teach who ultimately did him in
Maybe he fought someone like Barbell though.
 
#7
Rocks wouldn´t have recruited if so

No one wanted it enough


It was said that the Rocks pirates no longer want to tell their story meaning none of them getting along. This wouldn´t be true if 5 of them were still working together.

Is this thread just Koby wank? He hasn´t beaten any major pirate in 1v1. not even if they were a fraud.
Koby didn't fight Wang Zhi it was specifically said that it was Teach who ultimately did him in
Maybe he fought someone like Barbell though.
Actually yeah you’re right, Teach did say he toppled WZ

But the weaker Rocks members teaming up would still make sense. The biggest conflicts in the crew seemed to come from the actual emperors.

WZ does still seem like a bum tho, so I really wouldn’t be surprised if Silver Axe was the true powerhouse of his crew.
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Law and Koby defeated a bunch of fodder serving under him, while Teach probably took out the main players of his crew.
 
#10
"Ochoko has no feats. But he also killed Marlon and kidnapped Shakky".

God, do you even look at what you type half the time?
Hachinosu was a major island. Rocks and the WG desired it.

His best feats are offscreen and it’s possible he got help from the WG.


He hardly has the top tier portrayal one would expect of the ruler of Hachinosu.
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WZ having allies like Silver Axe or John could explain how he held hachinosu from folks like Shiki, WB, Kaido, etc.
 
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