Character Discussion Wasn't Xebec supposed to be evil or something?
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Him being actually the one fighting against Imu and the Celestial Dragons, after the manga spent so much time and efforts at painting as so ridiculously over the top evil, was always going to make him look more sympathetic than intended; while making Roger and Garp very hypocritical and unsympathetic for siding with the CD.
Oh yeah he's better than we thought he'd be but he did still injure a child and destroy towns. Not the worst thing we've seen a pirate do (I'd rather have Xebec as a roommate way before someone like Vasco, Devon or Doffy, for example) but it does disqualify him from being a good dude or even just an anti hero.
That makes him more interesting and fun, though, so it's fine
That makes him more interesting and fun, though, so it's fine
Xebec is no better.
It's the way we were introduced to them.
Xebec started off with hitting Loki at the end of the chapter to straight Sitting in imu chamber next chapter.
He's cool and badass lol.
But remove the imu situation from xebec.
And look at him.
- Killing innocents
- Leveling towns and island
- terrorist actions, kidnapping.
- His own family were turned into domi reversed demons and he couldn't care less.
He is frankly no better than Kaidou or bigmom.
They don't really care sbout weak or life beneath them.
It's just the way oda shows up stuff. Perspectives that's all.
Loki straight up said he wanted to destroy the entire world, he is the sun god or something.
( And frankly. Vasco is an alcoholic and Devon is someone who prefers pretty woman lol. We are safe from of them lmao. Doffy on thr other hand though, i don't see him getting violent for no reason, but he's a psycopath i won't take any chances)
Rather than that. All of them are loyal to their own crew.
It's the way we were introduced to them.
Xebec started off with hitting Loki at the end of the chapter to straight Sitting in imu chamber next chapter.
He's cool and badass lol.
But remove the imu situation from xebec.
And look at him.
- Killing innocents
- Leveling towns and island
- terrorist actions, kidnapping.
- His own family were turned into domi reversed demons and he couldn't care less.
He is frankly no better than Kaidou or bigmom.
They don't really care sbout weak or life beneath them.
It's just the way oda shows up stuff. Perspectives that's all.
Loki straight up said he wanted to destroy the entire world, he is the sun god or something.
( And frankly. Vasco is an alcoholic and Devon is someone who prefers pretty woman lol. We are safe from of them lmao. Doffy on thr other hand though, i don't see him getting violent for no reason, but he's a psycopath i won't take any chances)
Rather than that. All of them are loyal to their own crew.
We never saw him destroy any town other than this religious scumbag monastery. It's obvious that Oda specifially uses THIS island/town to demonstrate how wrong the anti-Rocks propaganda is (aka "sure, he might've destroyed some islands/towns, but now look closely what those islands/towns really were").
It's pretty much the same like we have with the SHs now, where the WG tries to portray them as super evil pirates and the majority of marines and civilians believe this shit (just like the marines of Egghead: "Omg, he's really as evil as they say!").
If he was a true villain, Shakky would've never decided to live under his protection and start a business/bar there and honorable guys like Whitebeard wouldn't have served under him and even decided to help him out with nothing to gain (like against Imu).
It's pretty much the same like we have with the SHs now, where the WG tries to portray them as super evil pirates and the majority of marines and civilians believe this shit (just like the marines of Egghead: "Omg, he's really as evil as they say!").
If he was a true villain, Shakky would've never decided to live under his protection and start a business/bar there and honorable guys like Whitebeard wouldn't have served under him and even decided to help him out with nothing to gain (like against Imu).
It's narrator telling us of his deeds not WG.
Nobody is accounting sengoku statements here.
Shakky was actively chased by Marines and garp.
Hachinosu was a Pirate haven.
Do you understand what Davy back fight even means? You can't just choose to unfollow your new captain because you don't feel like it. You swore to the new captain.
Whitebeard only followed him due to Rules of Davy back fight.
And that's their motivation to follow him lol.
Nobody is accounting sengoku statements here.
Shakky was actively chased by Marines and garp.
Hachinosu was a Pirate haven.
Do you understand what Davy back fight even means? You can't just choose to unfollow your new captain because you don't feel like it. You swore to the new captain.
Whitebeard only followed him due to Rules of Davy back fight.
And that's their motivation to follow him lol.
1. Well, then Charles Manson was an unfairly treated guy, right? He didn't hurt a fly, it was just his friends...
2. It's a pretty dirty tradition. You leave the other crew in the mud (if not completely destroyed) if you win.
3. Could've been a lighter punishment. WB even pointed that.
4. A crime is a crime. Had he killed only a single civilian, it would be awful already.
2. It's a pretty dirty tradition. You leave the other crew in the mud (if not completely destroyed) if you win.
3. Could've been a lighter punishment. WB even pointed that.
4. A crime is a crime. Had he killed only a single civilian, it would be awful already.
