Powers & Abilities "ACOA and ACOC attacks have no contact, i studied this children manga for 5 years"
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So who exactly said advcoc's attacks are non-contact?
It's advcoa that makes the attacks not contact each other, not advcoc
And I think Oda explained enough about advcoa in Wano to tell the difference from advcoc
Will Oda use advcoa again in the story?
No, he may never use it again
Luffy and Kaido's attacks were advcoc+advcoa
Garp's attack in this scene was advcoc+coa
Whitebeard and Roger's attacks in Oden's flashback were advcoc+advcoa
Shanks and Whitebeard's attack was advcoc+coa
There may be no more advcoa in the story, it depends on Oda
It's advcoa that makes the attacks not contact each other, not advcoc
And I think Oda explained enough about advcoa in Wano to tell the difference from advcoc
Will Oda use advcoa again in the story?
No, he may never use it again
Luffy and Kaido's attacks were advcoc+advcoa
Garp's attack in this scene was advcoc+coa
Whitebeard and Roger's attacks in Oden's flashback were advcoc+advcoa
Shanks and Whitebeard's attack was advcoc+coa
There may be no more advcoa in the story, it depends on Oda
At this point it's safe to assume that characters of a certain level are using whatever haki they have at their disposal whenever the situation merits it.
Honestly I actually like haki in theory, it gives a way to harm logias and gives non- DF users a reason for their strength. I even prefer it to seastone.
But in practice it's somehow boring and convoluted all at once. Stuff like Rokushiki etc just seems more fun.
Even the interesting aspects of haki like Future Sight and Internal Destruction could have been reworked as DFs and that would have worked pretty well IMO.
Honestly I actually like haki in theory, it gives a way to harm logias and gives non- DF users a reason for their strength. I even prefer it to seastone.
But in practice it's somehow boring and convoluted all at once. Stuff like Rokushiki etc just seems more fun.
Even the interesting aspects of haki like Future Sight and Internal Destruction could have been reworked as DFs and that would have worked pretty well IMO.
First, it was said that there are several types of COA, and we ourselves know this.
First we see Luffy's hand which is completely black. Then Luffy tries to cover his body with more Haki and we see a white halo around Luffy's hand.
This is the advcoa which prevents contact
As is the non-contact punch
As we can see in this description, he is hitting without contact
And even if this image didn't exist, it wouldn't be hard for people with common sense to understand this
Luffy has already learned to defend and attack with coa, so what would learning advcoa add to him?
Yes, defending and attacking without contact
And the most advanced type of COA, you insert your Haki into people's bodies and somehow damage them from the inside, and we see that there is no limit to contact, and Luffy has touched it.
First we see Luffy's hand which is completely black. Then Luffy tries to cover his body with more Haki and we see a white halo around Luffy's hand.
This is the advcoa which prevents contact
As is the non-contact punch
As we can see in this description, he is hitting without contact
And even if this image didn't exist, it wouldn't be hard for people with common sense to understand this
Luffy has already learned to defend and attack with coa, so what would learning advcoa add to him?
Yes, defending and attacking without contact
And the most advanced type of COA, you insert your Haki into people's bodies and somehow damage them from the inside, and we see that there is no limit to contact, and Luffy has touched it.
AdCoC is the trick to do it. Because it Enchanes Your AP.
But by how much? 2x? 4x? 10x?
We already know Scabbards only " Stabbed " kaidou not cut him, all of them combined barely managed to do anything.
All scabbards Combined attack is weaker than Zoro simple Tatsumaki and Flying Dragon Blaze.
That's Zoro pure AP and Ryou.
Ashura where zoro claims " He using everything " , From this chapter connect the dots.
Use of lot of Haki results in increased AP.
On top of that Zoro used Ashura which triples his AP.
And i would say Zoro was still nerfed by how damaged he was already. If he was fresh, Wound would be even more deeper.
So yes. I'll say, Zoro (With everything he got (Haki) + Ashura + Enma Cutting prowess).... did replicate AdCoC feat. It's not out of the realm possiblity. CoA is Zoro Speciality.
But by how much? 2x? 4x? 10x?
We already know Scabbards only " Stabbed " kaidou not cut him, all of them combined barely managed to do anything.
All scabbards Combined attack is weaker than Zoro simple Tatsumaki and Flying Dragon Blaze.
That's Zoro pure AP and Ryou.
Ashura where zoro claims " He using everything " , From this chapter connect the dots.
Use of lot of Haki results in increased AP.
On top of that Zoro used Ashura which triples his AP.
And i would say Zoro was still nerfed by how damaged he was already. If he was fresh, Wound would be even more deeper.
So yes. I'll say, Zoro (With everything he got (Haki) + Ashura + Enma Cutting prowess).... did replicate AdCoC feat. It's not out of the realm possiblity. CoA is Zoro Speciality.