Tim Minchin


It's a very popular quote in the realm of critical thinking, rationality & zetetic in France. It was used by Minchin as a joke but it's applied to show that rationality was not only about getting bad ideas out but also by understanding which idea should be getting in. A form of rational process that I'm still using today, but updated to my current knowledge of politics. (rationnalist are usually full of political biases)
 
it still paints a massively different picture if we do make the distinction, regardless of any argument. and mind you that alot of this flight happened before the formation of israel, during the civil war within the british mandate (that also was initiated by arab forces)
Fair point, I don’t remember my Israeli history classes well enough to mount a defense so I’ll just concede this one to you (not a joke, by the way; I went to a private Jewish school through fifth grade) :hapnoel:
 
I'm not surprised. You might be taking the same path as I did.

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ive generally been listening to his stuff for years my guy. just relistening right now cause i kind of forgot about him.

your path isnt an option my guy
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Very funny. But it only works because it's humorous and because he ridiculizes himself doing it and clearly explain the real point in the beginning.
Rare Logiko-:Woro
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I went to a private Jewish school through fifth grade
Very interesting, can you like give me a summary of how it differs from public schools (if you also made that experience)?
 
Very interesting, can you like give me a summary of how it differs from public school (if you also made that experience)?
Yeah, I did public school from sixth grade on…the main differences were significantly smaller class sizes, mandatory religion/language lessons, and an overall sense of exclusion or forcible separation, that last part was easily the most jarring change when I made the jump. I don’t know that either way was more educational or did a better job of preparing me for the real world, but as a matter of personal preference, I remember being glad that I didn’t stay private for middle or high school:DeepThink:
 

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Some insane news today.

As expected, it's about Trump, again. This time though, a lot of the comments suggesting that Trump is doing all this to get access to the oil reserves in Venezuela 😲

Edit: Or it could really be about the drug cartels
 
ive generally been listening to his stuff for years my guy. just relistening right now cause i kind of forgot about him.

your path isnt an option my guy
:HoldThisL:
Don't underestimate yourself

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Some insane news today.

As expected, it's about Trump, again. This time though, a lot of the comments suggesting that Trump is doing all this to get access to the oil reserves in Venezuela 😲
Imperialism

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Yeah, I did public school from sixth grade on…the main differences were significantly smaller class sizes, mandatory religion/language lessons, and an overall sense of exclusion or forcible separation, that last part was easily the most jarring change when I made the jump. I don’t know that either way was more educational or did a better job of preparing me for the real world, but as a matter of personal preference, I remember being glad that I didn’t stay private for middle or high school:DeepThink:
you remember the private jewish schools stance on shit like evolution? is it similar to christian private schools over there?

christian private schools in germany are super chill on stuff like that, but they also have mandatory religion classes. (the ones i know take from multiple denominations and even non-christians as students)
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Don't underestimate yourself

:BigW:
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Some insane news today.

As expected, it's about Trump, again. This time though, a lot of the comments suggesting that Trump is doing all this to get access to the oil reserves in Venezuela 😲

Edit: Or it could really be about the drug cartels
Those who say it's about oil are the some communists who said that Irak was an oil war. Their existence are a threat to the free world.
 
you remember the private jewish schools stance on shit like evolution? is it similar to christian private schools over there?

christian private schools in germany are super chill on stuff like that, but they also have mandatory religion classes. (the ones i know take from multiple denominations and even non-christians as students)
I have smoked way too much pot in my life to remember things that clearly, but despite my entire formative education taking place in the Bible Belt, I definitely learned about Darwinism in one or both schools…being that it was a privately funded institution run by progressive Jews in a Southern city that’s not nearly as red as outsiders assume, there was definitely more of a focus on science and logic than you might think, I was able to learn essential stuff in between lectures on our belief system and how best to observe it :mrgo:
 
Fascism is a far right ideology. Nazism is a far right ideology. Saying "the textbook definition could be wrong" isn't an argument, especially since Fascism came to be defined by far right regimes, follows extreme right wing ideologies, and is accurately defined as one. It is nothing like the factually false rhetoric used by racists against black people. Ain't nothing psudeoscientific about a far right ideology being a far right ideology.
We already had this conversation. I posted here authors that don't agree with that notion and links to their articles. I also posted a chart that demonstrates that Fascism and Nazism have more common characteristics with communism and socialism than capitalism. It was a long-ass post that you simply didn't read or reply to. Fascism and Nazism are considered right-wing simply because left-wing academics employed historical revisionism to make the left look good (like always). The same people are now calling Lula a neoliberal. In a couple of years, it wouldn't surprise me to see history books preaching Lula and Dilma's governments as conservative ones. The left never takes responsibility for their actions. Cognitive dissonance is a thing, but I don't think you suffer from it, Mr.all dictatorships are right-wing, you just argue in bad faith like the rest of them.
You point was (and correct me if I'm wrong) that Leftism was infamously disorganized and fractured (which I agreed with) and the fact that leftist don't act with the media being against them in mind. Which I disagreed with showing you how, no matter how you act as a leftist, the power through media will ALWAYS try to discredit the radical in favor of the apolitical or non violent one to maintain its own power.



You can't say "it's pseudoscientific" when you reject science mate... That's not how rationality works..



And you were already wrong.



Yes they are. They can have more biases, but that precisely why they need more data and more attention.



Say the fascist. But yeah, there are different forms of fascism. All bad. And all far rightists.



Nuance is a concept that also needs nuance. Being nuanced about everything is as stupid as being open to every ideas. An absolutely opened mind is as dangerous as a completely closed one.



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Nah... that's actually precisely my point. Without women starting to demand their right violentely and women thinking and radicalizing their thinking process and then protesting again and again... there wouldn't have the right to vote. Non violence as a way for change is a liberal illusion that invizibilizes the actual years or decades of struggle, often violent and radical that preceded the obtention of a right.



Nah, that's my pov. I'm talking personally with urgency here as there is a genocide happening. The point about ethnonationalism stands on its own. No matter what form, zionism is a colonial and ethnonationalist rooted ideology that can only create a form of fascism.








Buuuuurn



Yup they were debunked and at the very worst, not confirmed in any way. I invite you to make little researches.



Things that you have been ignoring clearly:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06...ve-wounded-palestinian-tied-vehicle/104012064

(this type of thing is daily, it's systemic)


Hamas is not in control of Palestine, but Gaza. And it's not in control, it's fighting for control. The IDF is in control of Gaza. THerefore when you ask "who did these milicia managed to do such horrible things?" the answer is Israel fund and helped them do it.



Dude. This is literally a war crime shot on camera. And it's only a few week old:


Israel did not only do one war crime, but HUNDREDS on top of a genocide. When Israel destroys an hospital with people inside of it, it's a war crime my guy. Time to wake the F up. The international courts needs time to investigate, but they are already moving.



Taking over people's home is not an aggression? Colonization is not an agression? Genocide is not an agression? War crimes are not an agression? Keeping an entire population in a constant state of dehumanization and oppression, not an agression? You are wired backward mate. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Inform yourself on the subject (don't worry, I know you won't).


Comparable, but not worse indeed.


I mean.. Trump is already destroying judge of the ICC in France for investigating Israel ....

There is a french man who has been completely cut from society because of that. (no more access to bank account etc.)


lmaoooo





Colonization is not only necessarily taking over other's people land, it's also and foremost a form of exploitation and subjugation. Colonialism happens to this day in Sudan and Congo and yet, you do not see the West taking over parts of lands. There are actually many form of colonialism and what is happening in Israel at the moment (but also in the US in a way) is settler colonialism. Non native Israeli are colonist by def.
All your arguments are invalid cause you don't have a job.
Meanwhile hints are coming that Trump is threatening Israeli Judges about him putting sanctions on Israel if Netanyahu goes to prison...
Link?
 
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Yup they were debunked and at the very worst, not confirmed in any way. I invite you to make little researches.
No they were not. Do your reasearch. And blindly listening to nazy propaganda is not reasearch.

Things that you have been ignoring clearly:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06...ve-wounded-palestinian-tied-vehicle/104012064

(this type of thing is daily, it's systemic)
Saying something is systemic doesn't makes you sound smart. Quite the opposite, is a generic word everyone uses for everything nowadays.

I couldn't care less about how a terrorist is treated, he is luck to even be alive. But anyway they are investigating the issue, it is written at the article.

Hamas is not in control of Palestine, but Gaza. And it's not in control, it's fighting for control. The IDF is in control of Gaza. THerefore when you ask "who did these milicia managed to do such horrible things?" the answer is Israel fund and helped them do it.
Hamas was the elected group to be in control of Gaza. And what they did? Attacked Israel. Now they are all crying like little babies, the ones who are left alive, because Israel is destroying them and they got so weak that the other organizations, as terrorists as them, are trying to taking them down as well. Hamas is not the only organization in Gaza, is just your favorite terrorist one.

Dude. This is literally a war crime shot on camera. And it's only a few week old:



Israel did not only do one war crime, but HUNDREDS on top of a genocide. When Israel destroys an hospital with people inside of it, it's a war crime my guy. Time to wake the F up. The international courts needs time to investigate, but they are already moving.
Yea I also remember Ukraine drones killing Russian surrenders. Also war crime but I don't give a shit, it is ridiculous to accept a surrender from a soldier who can be plotting against you.

Taking over people's home is not an aggression? Colonization is not an agression? Genocide is not an agression? War crimes are not an agression? Keeping an entire population in a constant state of dehumanization and oppression, not an agression? You are wired backward mate. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Inform yourself on the subject (don't worry, I know you won't).
No land was taken over. They were all bought. There is no genocide if not by the one preached for Israel haters like you. Hamas is the one keeping their own people in a constant state of dehumanization, oppresion and agression.
 
the zionist movement should have created a jewish state somewhere else, regardless of their religious sites.
They tbh couldn’t have

the levant, being the origin of Judaism, was the only place that united all Jews.

However, it would have probably prevented a nearly century long conflict if they just took the Jewish majority lands around Tel Aviv, instead of trying to conquer the levant.
 
We already had this conversation. I posted here authors that don't agree with that notion and links to their articles. I also posted a chart that demonstrates that Fascism and Nazism have more common characteristics with communism and socialism than capitalism. It was a long-ass post that you simply didn't read or reply to. Fascism and Nazism are considered right-wing simply because left-wing academics employed historical revisionism to make the left look good (like always). The same people are now calling Lula a neoliberal. In a couple of years, it wouldn't surprise me to see history books preaching Lula and Dilma's governments as conservative ones. The left never takes responsibility for their actions. Cognitive dissonance is a thing, but I don't think you suffer from it, Mr.all dictatorships are right-wing, you just argue in bad faith like the rest of them.
one very important aspect of fascism is ultranationalism. that is directly opposed to left wing ideologies.

and i dont know why you even want to make the comparison with communism/socialism/capitalism. these three are mainly economic ideologies, so you are basically comparing apples to oranges by stating "see they are both round" just because these economic ideologies still have political inferences.

socialism/communism are also directly opposed to fascism since fascism embraces hierarchies, whereas the other two want to remove hierarchies and seek egalitarianism.

considering these basic ass points it sounds much more likely that the authors you cited are heavily influenced by their biases than what you accuse "left wing academics" of lmao.
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All your arguments are invalid cause you don't have a job.
this is as stupid a statement as logikos "biological sex doesnt exist" nonsense.

congrats
 
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