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That clearly isn't evidence not with an author known to be inconsistent. The fact that Luffy used aCoC this chapter goes against what you're saying. Luffy had no reason to hold back. If there is any personal limitation he set for himself it's headcanon as long as it's mentioned. Like it always...

The difference is that at all times we have Manga panels confirming just that. You can even ask for every specific fighting scene and we're more than welcome to bring them up @Kurozumi Wiwi probably has a collection. The difference here is that Luffy has no reason to hold anything back...

Bro stop using Kaido as some base level for Durability lol. Kizaru is a normal human.

Will Luffy fans continue saying he didn't use x and y ability whenever he looks mid ? I can already see them coping that Luffy didn't use FS when Teach uses Kurozu and Gura punches the fuck outta him.

Gotta wait and see. Kizaru should bleed a little

Come on dude, they're clearly on the same level lol. You can have Kaido ahead totally fine but it's not going to be a mid diff because Luffy has worse stamina.

We don't really know that. They fought off-screen. Even when the attack landed we see Kizaru's face and it looks to be in the same state as before. Garp and Kuzan had dried blood marks all over their face. It's hard for me to believe that they didn't hit each other all fight

What's your point bro? Did I say Base Luffy beats Kaido ? Base Luffy has proven how long he can hold out against Kaido. Kaido even acknowledged him.

Did you miss how long Base Luffy kept up with Kaido even in drunken mode ?

We need to see what the attack did to Kizaru but if Kuzan gets up from Garp's punch I think it's safe to say Kizaru walks this one off.

Yes I agree. Luffy in particular is facing a bad matchup. He needs to use a mode to keep up in the speed department that simultaneously taxes his stamina A LOT which puts him at a disadvantage.

Those are Kaido's Over Kong Gun level attacks. Top 3 in his arsenal outside of Blazing Bagua. No fighter uses their best abilities all the time during a fight, this doesn't mean they weren't going all out before. Luffy went all out when he entered Snakeman as he said that was his last G4. Kaido...

If he fights in Base though he doesn't have those stamina issues. Kaido just has insane stamina

Newcastle ofc.

This isn't even an agenda driven take of mine but purely based on each fighters speciality. What Luffy needed against Kaido was AP. Something to block his club strikes while simultaneously inflicting enough damage to take him down. For both of these aCoC was the perfect PU because it's an AP...

Because he is Him

I have a hard time putting Luffy anywhere below Kaido when both are fresh. Luffy has shown how far he can push Kaido in Base but that won't work against Kizaru because he's too fast for any form below G5. 1696446203 Was the atmosphere over there always this good because wow

Better ?

There is nothing in which any previous Gear is superior in compared to Gear 5 which is why it is Luffy's peak. Snakeman speed wasn't effective but G5 is. G4 power isn't effective but G5 is. Luffy has nearly shown all he can do and didn't manage to even tag Kizaru clearly until this last...

Oda would need to show us that, it's important. Agreed.