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Thats just a bland powerscaling arguement without any nuance. Juuko'ou can be a superior strategist or even a superior commander then Gen'u and at the same time be worse in certain situations due to bad match up. A lot of Genu's success came down to him having shit tone of elites which were...

On his own no, but overall I think this Gohoumei Army would beat Juuko'ou pretty badly if he was the one facing Wei. Juuko'ou doesn't have any powerful elites or any methods to decicively press his offense. His speciality also seem to be more towards the grand strategy rather then field tactics...

Gen'u benefited massively from the fact that he was able to slay Bakai at the start of battle. Before that, it was Gohoumei army that was pressing their offense. In case of Juuko'ou he doesn't have the martial might to take heads, not does he have Hakurei to support him like Gen'u did. Gen'u...

Thats great and all, the problem is that in this scenario Man'u isn't even present. So the important question is - how well can Juuko'ou do if he can't hide behind a martial beats and has to actually command his troops personally. The issue is that he didn't show anything in that regard and has...

You guys think that someone like Gen'u would be able to hold his own against Kanmei on his own? Or that Juuko'ou would be able to do anything against him when Tou reached his HQ in a minute? Kyouen clashed with Kyou on multiple ocasions and it was pointed out that it caused big casuallties on...

No, Man'u wasn't the only problem. The issue was also that Juuko'ou was absolutely helpless against Tou's charge and got his HQ captured in a flash. When it comes to field tactics this man didn't show anything, so idk why anyone would think he can do something against battle-hardened...

Ehh, they had Hakurei and Kouyoku and still lost after one day of battle. They pretty much got mid-diffed all things considered.

And you think Juuko gang would beat Han under the same circymstances?

Heavenly Kings. -Rinko breaks Juuko'ou's line and kills him. -Kaishibou takes care of Genu. -Genpou and Kyouen take Sento'un.

China is no match for the power of America. :PepeNumberOne:

Hara is cooking something with Kyoukai? :bamathink:

He was also getting his ass slapped before Houken. If you accept the fact that his performance against Houken was an outlier then his scaling makes much more sense.

What Renpa saw after geting bodied by Han.

Haku'ou Koku and Yoko Yoko using Shin as their tenis ball was kinda funny, not gonna lie. So those two are generals who specialize in encirclements? Thats an interesting direction. Still feels like bs that they were able to seperate all those armies this easily with number advantage that is...

Seem like we are finally geting Raku'akan's tactics. Nice.

I mean sure... but how difficult for her would be killing the horse and turning it into ground battle?

In pure 1 vs 1 I can see the arguement for Kyoukai making the list, since she's essencially the fastest character in the series. Sure, her stamina is bad, but it doesn't matter as long as she can blitz her opponent in time. On Shukai Plains she did surprisingly well against Houken.

Shibashou has the potencial, but I wouldn't put him at number one... Other then that it's a solid list.

Sandoq rips him apart.

No point in scaling Han duo until we see them fight.