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You don't have to be authoritarian to implement socialist policy.......you keep using examlles of socialism at its worst, typically when it is pushed by dictators. 1767654199 You're talking about communism, a type of socialism.

I again ask what point you are trying to make? You keep screaming things at me that I never denied.

"My" definition is the actual definition of socialism which is, copy and paste: "Socialism is an economic and political system advocating for collective or government ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. It aims for a more egalitarian society by...

The textbook definitions of it???

Never said nor implied that though?

Never said anything against any of this though?? What's your point? 1767652250 Never said nor implied that.

Once again, socialism is an umbrella term. Majority of attempts to implement socialism were after revolutions or another forcible takeovers of government. It always leads to internal power struggles and civil wars. It would make no difference if you replace socialism with other ideologies or...

To suffer under socialism, you need an incompetent government and/or an authoritarian regime pulling the strings. To suffer under capitalism, you just need to let it do its natural thing. Bit of a key difference there :catsure:

The idea that Loki is a level above Xebec, Harald, Roger, Garp, and WB sounds utterly insane but that's a me problem. I was gonna say Luffy becoming stronger than that in one arc is stupid, but then I remembered Wano and the 5 back-to-back power ups.

Lemme preface by saying I have no issues with Loki being that dog. My problem is the narrative pushing twice that Luffy has the power to stop Loki like Shanks did. Gaban didn't give Luffy the key until he was able to guage Luffy's strength as being adequate for the task of stopping Loki like...

How does any of this mean that Luffy doesn't have the strength to stop Loki or that Shanks must have used tricks or help? That has always been my point and the reason for the whole convo. Being stronger than Gaban and that version of Shanks ≠ being stronger than or unable to be beaten by Luffy...

? Is someone arguing that Loki should've been destroyed by Harald? What is the point of mentioning that? Shanks, Gaban, and Loki all overwhelmed Harald at first. All 3 were seen bleeding and gassed out after some time passed because of Harald's COC and regen. Loki succeeded not because he...

OK? There was literally 4 more panels after that head grab showing time passing. Loki was clean in one of the of those panels, and was now gassed out and bleeding in the next 3 panels. If it was the fruit, then it was match up thing. ? When did someone say that?

Loki was gassed out and beaten up too. He literally had the same fight execution as them. Gaban and Shanks said that their only hope to save Harald was Loki, and Loki only managed to win because Harald regained his senses and let himself be killed. And Loki didnt remove the possession. He...

Harald in that state was getting "killed" by fodder and easily handled by Gaban and Shanks. He clearly wasn't all there. Loki needed Ragnir and the DR to kill Harald permanently. It was purely a match up thing. And again, Loki is only walking free because Luffy is seemingly capable of stopping...

I doubt that. Loki was never portrayed superior, and the whole point of him being free is because Luffy can stop him. It was emphasized twice. The flashback got everybody really hyped, but I haven't been operated on hype in like 10 years lol. Would it be nice for Loki to be stronger? Sure, but...

Two problems: 1) It was stated multiple times that Shanks stopped Loki. There's was no mention or hint of Shanks receiving help with what we got. 2) The entire reason Loki is getting freed is because Gaban is convinced that Luffy has the power to stop Loki like Shanks did Shanks didn't 1v1...

But his point is irrelvant. We know for a fact that an admiral can't use their full power in Marijoies because of collateral damage. Making up scenarios for an off screen encounter that contradicts the facts is unreasonably biased and pointless.

It was stated 3 times that an admiral cannot use their full power in Marijoies. We saw an admiral complain about not being able to fight, all the while being surrounded by CDs. You know...the people who live there. These statements were talking about out admirals in general. It canon and common...

I'm using the canon material that was stated and shown to us multiple times. Once again, you making up stuff to contradict the canon in order to fit your own personal power level preferences are irrelvant.