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There are still people who geniuenly believe Ouhon didn't surpass Akou even 4+ years after Shukai Plains? :milaugh:

I give it to Ordo. I imagine that at the end of the day he will turn out to have stronger vassals, he also seem to be a bit smarter plus has more troops in this scenario. Goba is the only one of the brothers that seem to be worth something. Bunen's sacrefice strategy can be effective, but is...

People are too hellbent on this whole "direct clash" thing probably due to something I call battledome mentality. "Place character X against character Y under specific circumstances and tell me who wins" sort of thing. The problem is that this is not how wars in kingdom work and characters...

Riboku was also stated to be Qin's most dangerous enemy they faced so far by the narrator of the manga. And the narrator is suposed to tell the story from the objective standpoint, so you can't make it more canon then this. :handsup: Riboku > Renpa is a fact at this point.

That cracked me up. :suresure: But seriously tho, what is Kansaro suposed to do? Abandon his duty, break in tears and hug his body? He's in the middle of battle and has a job to do.

They did the exact thing she wanted them to do. It's called outplaying someone. You really think Rinshoujo would do better then her in this situation? No food, massive disadvatange in numbers, powerful Quanrong troops against you, fighting on enemy's terrain etc? I don't think anyone is trying...

She outplayed him in the end by luring out Zhao forces and taking the city. With the number advantage they had she had to take some risks, but things worked out the way she planed in the end.

Interesting topic. This is how I see it. Characters on 6GG level: -Original 6GG -Original 3GH -Gakuki -Duke Hyou -New 6GG (Moubu, Tou, Ousen, Yotanwa, Kanki) -Riboku -Shibashou -Kanmei, Karin and Kouen -Shouheikun -End of series Shin, Ouhon, Mouten and Kyoukai That makes total of 22 characters...

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Her immidiately caughing blood when that happened is clear indication he did serious damage. You think Kansaro would just let her go if there was even slight chance she will survive? He is not an idiot and she just killed his bro.

I can't tell if you guys are serious or trolling. She had Jiaga's mace stuck in her heart. IN HER HEART. You can even see her caughing blood when that happened. Her hand is literally torn. And on one panel it also looks like she is bleeding from her neck. There's no one in the manga who had...

She is not surviving this. I'd also put money on it.

Wait, is Shanshuu also dead? I guess his nickname "Immortal" wasn't as well tought out. :saden:

The fact that he wasn't just murdered by Renpa on the spot means that Hara had some idea to still use him in the future. If he was executed then I'm sure we would get that information in the manga right after the battle. Him moving to another state makes more sense to me, because right now...

Gaku Jou most likely moved to a different state years ago. After realizing his loss to Renpa will not be forgiven.

Yes. Shiryou.

She was only fighting them alone briefly before Sanshuu and Shinkakugaku stepped to help. And Jiaga was holding back apparently.

People on this forum really love overreacting. It's like everyone ignored the part that says Shiryou got mortally wounded and is also dying. With that said, I'm curious if Hara intended to kill Jiaga like this when he introduced the character or was it something he decided on the fly to give...

He said even Ouki wouldn't achieve such response.

He literally opened the city gates. He clearly could. Having Eisei there was better then having some rando general, so I don't see how that matters.