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  1. Welkin

    Phantom Troupe vs Pitou (Multiple Rounds)

    En is something that has to be worked on specifically though. Your En isn't relative to your overall strength levels If that were the case then Phinks (who canonically is pathetic when it comes to his ability to use En) or Nobunaga would be significantly weaker than Zeno You're taking what...
  2. Welkin

    Phantom Troupe vs Pitou (Multiple Rounds)

    What did I say to refute any of this? I said Pitou is a nen infant therefore they have little experience with nen which is an objective truth Yes, they have a headstart due to their lineage. They are still a beginner with nen relative to how skilled they are by the end of the arc lol None of...
  3. Welkin

    Phantom Troupe vs Pitou (Multiple Rounds)

    No one's saying anything against any of this. I know Pitou was born with incredible base stats and intelligence that's not the point I'm making I didn't say Pitou was nenless I said Pitou was a nen infant which is objectively true. Pitou didn't even fully understand the basics of nen until...
  4. Welkin

    Phantom Troupe vs Pitou (Multiple Rounds)

    This part alone makes your entire post wrong Kite had his arm lopped off and lost badly to a freshly awakened Pitou who learned about nen literal seconds prior to their clash (no joke, go read chapter 198 it’s like 3-4 panels apart) who also had no Hatsu This is the insignificant damage he did...
  5. Welkin

    Phantom Troupe vs Pitou (Multiple Rounds)

    True, but we also know strength is far from the only factor when it comes to making it through the Dark Continent We also know that Netero sought the pinnacle of strength/combat while Beyond wants something else entirely If I had to guess I think Togashi was trying to say Beyond will be a...
  6. Welkin

    Phantom Troupe vs Pitou (Multiple Rounds)

    It doesn’t have to be taken literally He could be “beyond” Netero as a Hunter I don’t think Togashi was referencing strength when he named him that. Especially since Beyond is trying to do what Netero couldn’t/didn’t in fully exploring and taming the Dark Continent He’s not living past the...
  7. Welkin

    Phantom Troupe vs Pitou (Multiple Rounds)

    Unconfirmed but possible Don’t count him cause that’s more of a transformation but yeah it would apply to him too Possible but I kinda doubt it Tserri? Give him a decade or 2 and he’s untouchable but rn he’s fodder (comparatively) Wish granting genie I don’t really count her tbh
  8. Welkin

    Phantom Troupe vs Pitou (Multiple Rounds)

    With no prep they get torched by Pitou None of them have abilities that would allow them to do significant damage (if any) to Pitou realistically - Hisoka doesn’t have a real damage dealing ability - If Phinks tries twisting his arm he gets insta killed - Feitan has to take damage in order to...
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