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How does it matter what the anime clears up or not? It's NON CANON.

Don't turn it dark like that. :josad:

"I'm a business student! I'm smart and educated!!"

Well how could Rookie Ace defeat such a guy who rivaled Roger and WB in his prime?

But Jinbe legit used super hardening. Before that, WW broke Jinbe's Haki on multiple occasions.

Worstgen, please NEVER change. We need powerscalers.

This does put a smile to my face.

Paper doesn't follow powerscaling agendas. He doesn't even follow powerscaling debates that much.

I think Oda's retconning Ace into the novel version. This Ace was really powerful, with FS and awakening. He also matched gura gura WB. Yeah, this Ace would beat Marco and Co.

Even if Jinbe wasn't, this is basically Rookie Ace who is not tied to tremenduous plotarmor like the MC. If people use that to downplay Ace, I can't even...

That's why I mentioned great influence. Tbh, I doubt it would even be mentioned if this Warlord was some scrub. Why giving this W to Ace then instead of some weaker character? Ace wouldn't benefit defeating a weakling after all.

Tell that Lurwa

One of them has 2 billion berry bounty now lol. Moriah was kicked from his position bc he grew weak. That's only 2 of 7 Warlords.

You don't just become Warlord by being weak. Either this former Warlord had great influence (like Buggy), took this position by other means or he was simply strong enough to get this position. Plus, I think this former Shichibukai sure will appear again. There's no way Oda's just dropping some...

Ofc this is BS but you know his takes about Zoro and especially his opponents...

It just reaffirms his CoC user > non CoC user take lol

Some unnamed Shichibukai. Maybe even before fighting Jinbe.

I also think so. Maybe Kizaru will have his second round but this guy sure will change his objection later on. No matter how determined Kizaru is about his mission, he's basically forced to kill the people dear to him. At the end, Kizaru is still a human and he's already mentally near his limit...

I think Warlords are the best invention of Oda. They just represent the best force in this manga despite the Yonko and Admirals.