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His presence is damn near unrivaled

Maybe the real fight was the Luffy and Kiz vs Saturn we made along the way

And we will see what Kizaru does next week :kayneshrug:

Very glad I can say I never bought into that stupidity

I will say the fact that Rayleigh used ACoC when he pulled up on Blackbeard likely means that we can retroactively assume he would be using it on Kizaru as well in Sabaody, though obviously Oda wasn't drawing it then

Seems that way to me too. Also with Sentomaru, it's seeming pretty consistent

Daily reminder Zoro still has yet to surpass Old Man Ray

He might've cooked here ngl

I see split opinions on this. Most people on this forum agree with you that ACoC doesn't make you faster, but a lot of people I talk to think it does, and a lot of them cite Luffy's feats against Kaido once he awakened ACoC in base compared to how he was performing prior, even while using gears...

Good point about Luffys dialogue last chapter

Luffy: Ah... That was hot! Everyone: Eh!!! Kizaru: Finally he appeared... Kizaru: So this is... Luffy: How dare you send me flying away like that! Luffy: You've crossed the barrier twice! I thought I was going to die! Luffy's heartbeat is heard by the robot: Dum dat da da... Dum dat da da...

@ZenZu I'd love your thoughts on this too

@MarineHQ to answer your question

I know a lot of people use Luffy's feats in base after awakening ACoC compared to how he was faring in gear forms prior against Kaido to say it does. What's your take on that

Yeah, this snakeman is significantly above the one in WCI ACoC or not

Also where does this forum stand on the idea of "ACoC does/doesn't make you faster"

What do y'all make of Luffy going straight into gear 5 rather than using ACoC with snakeman

People told me he was gonna return to his Pre-TS form once he got that eye surgery :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

There's no actual pragmatic reason for him to not be using it, plus his facial expressions look pretty serious Idk maybe its another big mom situation lol

Luffy looks pretty serious to me here ngl