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  1. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    You used blood as a metric to put tatsumaki up on par with gattling, but because gattling is clearly>>> red roc that also caused Kaido to bleed this logic doesn't track. Well considering how boundman was dominant compared to Dragon Kaido we'll see. He needs to beat BB and the WG next, so no...
  2. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    But when Zoro first picked up Enma he did a giant slash everyone was impressed with. It does both help with haki training and magnify his output. If it only had the downside of being difficult to use surely he'd pick another sword for his fight so he wasn't limiting himself. It's more like...
  3. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Luffy needing help is a plot device, he needed Usopps help to get up and fight Lucci, he needed Nico Robins help to survive Crocodiles poision, he needed a transfusion against HODY ffs. Luffy gets help every arc, he also fights the toughest strongest enemy each arc, and by the end of the arc is...
  4. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Who fought Ryuma that would be able to trace Ryuma's haki aura? What are cursed blades and magical blades like Enma that suck out haki from their user? You have no idea how the mystical Katana logic works only Oda does so to shoot down people's theories as if you know the answer is a bit much...
  5. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    No I'm putting things into perspective so people don't extrapolate Zoro's power above his captains as that is Luffy downplay. Zoro will be the WSS and beat Mihawk by EOS. He's not going to be pirate king level...or outshine Luffy. If people think tatsumaki is outshining gattling then that is...
  6. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    So when Shanks stopped Kaido was Kaido fangirling about Oden's ryuo to a completely unrelated ryuo user? Why isn't he mentioning Oden's ryuo from Luffy's punches?
  7. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Why doesn't he call it Shanks' Ryuo then? Lol I suppose Oden only had level 2 barrier ryuo wheras shanks has level 3 like Luffy/Rayleigh.
  8. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Zoro extremists can't even accept that a near max effort attack that drained all of Luffy's haki is on another level than any of the other SNs attacks so far.
  9. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Why wouldn't Old Garp be stronger than Big Mom? Big Mom couldn't overcome old beard.
  10. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Luffy was injured with bandages still and self nerfing with telegraphing attacks- Zoro even commented that he wasn't fighting properly. Also Luffy wasn't in G4 which he needed for cracker. Fujitora lifting the rubble shouldn't be a nerf, him not using the rubble to attack is the nerf (but...
  11. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Hybrid is a straight upgrade to Base in every stat.
  12. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Big Mom and Kaido saw the aftermath of Zoro's dodged attack, impressed but not shocked. Big Mom's eyes were bulging with veins as this attack was happening and we got reaction shots from Kid flabbergasted at the insane power Luffy had. Kid didn't say "how did Zoro get such power in an instant"...
  13. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    So: one group attack from Zoro +Killer that base Kaido stood undamaged from + tatsumaki that Kaido instantly bounced back from within the same double page spread and counter attacked without any visible wounds did 80% of the cumulative damage of: Red Roc, Kong gun, Rifle, Schneider, and dozens...
  14. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Luffy is the only one to put Kaido down for any time at all. Maybe bump Zoro up to the 6% range and Luffy down to 85% if we're being generous. This was a max effort attack with a downside in a super powerful mode, with ryuo specifically designed to combat...
  15. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    He was almost knocked off his feat and keeled over from a Kong gun...
  16. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Look the attack was not that draining for Zoro. To say that a five page attack that was extremely draining for Luffy and EVERYONE was shocked at is at the same level as a non draining attack for Zoro is massive Luffy downplay and not in line with the reality that Kaido was kept down on the...
  17. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Snakeman now has ryuo to supplement damage.
  18. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    None of what you posted negates the time reaction of Kaido being put down for several pages vs no pages. There were ryuo bubbles after each gattling hit = internal damage. Even before ryuo was a thing gatling didn't cut open the people Luffy fought, that's not how brawling works, doesn't...
  19. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    Cracker and Jack are perfect matchups for Zoro's penetration. Zoro can't fight King either effectively without PIS, too lacking in the mobility department.
  20. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

    I still want to see Luffy use snakeman and tankman first. Hybrid should be slightly less durable than full zoan so Snakeman should be a decent fit. Kaido still has awakening himself to get through.
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