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That's a requirement :lusalty:

Adding to this, everyone knows my mother hen personality babied everyone who played my games, to the point I felt I over reached without cheating to help my players but I never gave them diapers and a pacifier :milaugh:

I keep going there because it actually prohibits scum having to learn to play scum in the thread, or how to deal with making fake claims. Basically how to play scum in general.

Game presence for scum is essential. Scum teams have been winning games without anti claim measures forever. Hell, usually not even knowing what characters could be in the game or having fake claims. They won because they were active in the thread and controlling what was going on there and...

I never took anything from them when it came to their night actions. I just said the players who were town had a complete right to be upset and only thing I pointed out was mafia shouldn't be able to win a game when they had no game thread presence or any control in the thread.

No, they really didn't if I mapped out the possibilities their would be endless routes to victory for scums and very slim routes for town. Nothing was fair about the set up. You had scum who mostly didn't even play the game, just sent actions.

I said what I said. Planned on leaving it with my post thanking Dragomir but watching the discussion it has to be said watching how you guys are responding to people who have the right to be upset when they entered a game where their chances to win was slim to none.

I have hosted, played and observed many games I have seen the reaction several times and even participated in the reaction myself.

:gokulaugh: Honestly it's funny. I get it though, it's hard to hear a win gotten wasn't really earned. The same happens when mafia is told you only won because town played like shit. In this case town didn't even really play bad.

Anyways what is done is done. Everyone has learned things, games will get better. Players will improve ect. Will be taking another short break from playing for a bit while I'm still trying to get better (or maybe just chop off my leg lol). It was fun playing with all of you. Thank you...

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I don't think I would be too hard on Usopp either because the fact is, there was really no way of town winning this game lol.

I did say there was six scums and I was almost certain of it because of how Nat's ability was wrote but I was wrote off for the most part. I did save Marimo the first time he was up for lynch against Gambit, but the 2nd I was iffy on it already but it wouldn't have done no good anyways if I...

Yea it was unfortunate, that is why I was so triggered because I figured the punishment would have been small, which it should have been, not perma crushed :gokulaugh: It was a really good tactic, just a failed excution xD

That is one thing I can say about Drago he always tries to learn to do better, that is why he asks for feedback and he has always been like that.

I explained this over and over. I had only x shot abilities, they were only good if scum actually visited. I didn't want to waste them so i wanted to ensure scum would visit me. It had nothing to do with Usopp why I claimed.

The punishment was far overkill. Like I explained to drago. People don't seem to even need how to play scum. They don't even learn to fake claim because they can scream oh no claiming is bad, they need zero presence in the game. Like there is no need for actual scum skills. I understand...

Me and Drago talked for awhile earlier today because he wanted some feedback, he already knew before he spoke with me that his experiments weren't that great. I see no reason to really to hound him on it. Though imo. Mafia needs to learn to have more game presence in the thread, they were...

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