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What the f are those BS affirmations ? There is no retcon here. No, its the pinnacle of One Piece. Still not deminishing the greatness of the arc. Making One Piece a lot better because of that. Making One Piece even less predictible than it is.. good stuff then. Highly unlikely, everything...

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Not a retcon I understand this point but you also need to understand that those type of centralized gouvernment are usually not very efficient and the fruit was non awakened for 800 years. So they just did like the other previous them, they just look at it on a side eye. We need to understand...

Yes and this only helped my argument by showing how inspired by the toon world Oda was from the beginning. Exactly Nop cliche + creativity = New something. Its not that extreme really The fruit of Luffy didn't changed. Only the knowledge you had of the fruit evolved. Who knows, perhaps...

This was a theory, the only things factual were the storytelling tools used to explain it. First you need to tell me where you see concepts and panel reused by Oda for me to have a better idea of what you are talking about. Secondly, I'm not going off topic, art is about inspiration, using...

Lmao you are right. My brain only remember the model name Art is about inspiration. No, the explanation is in the model of the fruit. Its just about imagination that's all. Always been a reality warper. Not just with material and object but also with characters. I love it personnally...

Yes I know. It is special because its the HIto hito no Mi, voila. No need for more explanation. If there need to be one, Oda will give you one.

Its everything but lazy. Imagination is the core caracter of One Piece as a story. Imagination is everything about Luffy, Imagination is everything about the devil fruit. That's called milking in storytelling. An echoing of the theme through plot point and twists. Imagination was the perfect...

Explain me why Katakuri has Logia and Paramecia power yet is still a paramecia ? There is no explanation, those two fruit are just special. There might be an explanation but there don't need to be. Fruit are the result of human imaginations, if someone dreamed to be a Nika.. then the fruit is...

Which is the perfect power in that instance.

No, Luffy is a Zoan. The Nika Nika fruit model.

The first and second season yes.

OKay sad. And that's where we disagree Who call others haters here ? Yes, but technique is not. Its not different its the exact same thing. Luffy was already warping reality before that. "only limited by his imagination" You should read One Piece sometime, you would like it I'm sure. I...

You are playing with fire here... I explained the abilities of Zoro at the end of the thread, not sure about Shanks, I don't remember seeing fire on his sword. Yup, that's what I explain in the thread. Not everything, I'm sure there is a limit.. but toonish things yeah.. just like the...

No foreshadowing indeed because none needed, it would have ruined the revelation, but like I explained in the thread there were at least 10 shadowings, which are - if you understand what I wrote - essential to make the revelation cohesive and acceptable (to those who actually pay attention to...

No good storytelling analyst in general No, With red Hawk, Luffy was able to create fire in water. That's the awakening, its a much insane power. As expected from an awakening. Is Luffy not a rubber man anymore ? Did he just started using his imagination to transform his body and win his fights ?

Still not a retcon lol Storytelling analysts.

Sad Thanks :sweat: 1691300426 The best stories reveal details on the protagonist on the very end.

How can you be sure of that, Joyboy is mentionned first in Fishmen island. But if if that was not the case it doesn't matter. We don't care when an author has an idea as long as it make sence. And here... Everything make sence. 1691300279 It was always a reality warping devil fruit, did you...