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Yea and what I'm saying is "he did it to" someone far superior to King and Queen in the stat being debated. You have failed to explain how they can touch him with current showings. I'll just take that as a concession.

Again. Snakeman with FS is >> King and Queen in speed. That's "who he did it too" It's really not that difficult to understand. I might as well have copied and pasted that one sentence in every response. This is getting real pointless. I never said anything to dispute further showings. King and...

Again. No argument. You're completely oversimplifying a situation and just talking about "levels", you're not talking feats. 1615135825 Marco's not taking on an all out King and Queen from what we know, to begin with. While he's putting in his all. So even that point doesn't hold.

You're confused. Do I think Oda would draw Katakuri in the same light as Marco taking these 2 on? Who knows, the fact that he did that for Marco shows how highly he thinks of him, so it's a nod on his favour as far portrayal goes. But so what? This is the arena section. This is not a future...

I'm not giving him anything he hasn't shown. Literally nothing. You've yet to counter a single point. from what we saw last chapter. -Katakuri isn't getting touched in FS -Katakuri has the range, strength and attack speed to dominate G4 boundman with awakening. The only thing you can tell...

Again you're not telling me how he isn't able to. All I see is level this level that.

What on earth does that have to do with Katakuri's FS feats? Does Luffy have a shapeshifting Logia like fruit? I don't think you're understanding that everything you just mentioned here barring Kaidou's thunder bagua is far far below snakeman + FS speeds, and Katakuri was still outworking that...

Except he does. I just told you how he does it, Queen and King don't have any feats or portrayal to put them on snakeman + FS level of speeds, and if a mortally wounded Katakuri could dance around that, he is not getting touched by King or Queen as long as his FS lasts. Go ahead and tell me...

You legit said nothing here. This has nothing to do with Doflamingo. Cracker was already superior to Doflamingo in many ways, in half the panel time.

Nothing random about it, he was dancing around attacks much much faster than anything King or Queen have shown with a hole in his stomach. So he's not getting touched. Then on offense he can easily replicate Marco's range, infact his awakening gives him more/better ranged attacks than what...

They probably aren't taking him down with anything less than high diff. They can't touch him, and will be taking a beating the entire time. They will have to outlast him. That's giving them the benefit of the doubt, based on current feats he can solo them. But I'm banking on the combination of...