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    Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

    Haki strength doesn't Vary so it doesn't matter if it is a quick clash or not
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    Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

    From your logic that COC = how strong you are....then we can measure. 1640084488 That doesn't change the strength of your ryou. It only overuses your ryou. When Luffy uses G4, he is overusing haki, his haki strength doesn't change
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    Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

    What? You can't vary haki because it comes from willpower. A character cannot be using 5% COO or 30% COA
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    Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

    That's the implication from your claim that COC = how strong you are. This means when characters clash equally in COC, it means they are equally strong It doesn't vary for the user. It means you can't use 5% of your COC strength or 50% of your COC strength It is a contradiction since training...
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    Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

    *Strong willed Which still doesn't affect my point. If it is tied to how strong someone is, then training yourself is directly training COC because to you it is tied to how strong one is. Because COC doesn't vary. So when two characters clash equally in COC then it means their COC is equal. By...
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    Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

    Again you are misrepresenting the statement. The power gap is what determines who gets knocked out =\= it determines how strong ones COC is. ^ The whole point of COC not being able to be trained is because it is not dependent on physical stats but rather the spirit. If not then that very...
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    Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

    Did you read my point? Embodiment of the spirit is what is in the manga. Your point that it equates to "how strong you are" is not grounded in the manga fact. That tells me that you do not understand the argument. Two characters clashing equally in COC =\= they are equally strong. Which again...
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    Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

    I read the line and your point misinterprets the line to equate it to "how strong you are." It is the embodiment of the spirit =\= how strong you are The fact Ray says it can't be trained yet states that the only way for it to get stronger is for the user to get stronger, all ties back to...
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    Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

    That's not how it works either. Embodiment of the spirit =\= how strong you are
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