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  1. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    I agree, I just think it’s beneficial to everyone that we don’t discuss something that hasn’t been stated yet or lack of information we know so little of Roger
  2. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    I agree... to an extent, for the following reasons. A.) Usopp when told about the Poneglph rubbings mentioned that they could sneak into Big Mom territory get the rubbing and sail off without having to combat anyone and become PK B.) Similarly Buggy mentioned he could become PK without lifting...
  3. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    No. We did not see Rogers backstory yet, we’ve seen Odens which Roger(dying) managed to be a part of. You’re jumping the gun. There hasn’t been much info dumps on Roger and there are still many questions. Again before making bold claims we should wait. I understand where on one side of the...
  4. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    Yeah I agree with that makes perfect sense. I personally think it’s too soon for us to go ahead and claim if he was or wasn’t the WSS of his era, Oda is with holding info. Before Roger was proved to be a swordsman people were on their high horse he wasn’t one but they got proven wrong at this...
  5. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    @Red Admiral So what is it exactly are you trying to prove ?? What is a Swordsman to you exactly?
  6. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    Lmfao you’re the best.
  7. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    Hmmmmm... 🤔 So let me get this straight. * The Deuteragonist of One Piece goal is to become WSS * When Nami left the crew during Arlong Park Luffy was adamant that Zoro & Usopp go get her back ASAP, but Luffy put that on hold while Zoro fought Mihawk. (Zoro’s ambition at that time to Luffy...
  8. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    What’s this based on ? WSC was cut down by an inferior Swordsman to the likes of Mihawk... WSM was tied with a Swordsman (Roger, until proven otherwise he is a swordsman) Where is the narrative that WSC & WSM >> WSS ???????
  9. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    Correct. Roger was on equal footing with WhiteBeard.
  10. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    I get where you’re coming from, but here’s something we can use as a base point and that’s Zoro. From panels posted by other members we’ve seen cheap shots (Zoro vs Cabaji), Using Rokoshiki techniques more than their Swords (Zoro vs Kaku), Brook uses his music. The reason I mention these is to...
  11. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    Only one problem I have Oda himself has never distinguished that he’s placed, Zoro,Brook, and Law all grouped together as Swordsman. Diamante called himself a swordsman in his repertoire : carries confetti blasters to release spiked iron balls and an a Iron umbrella, also a flintlock pistol
  12. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    Yep. I was incorrect as my homie @nik87 said turns out Whitebeard held the title while Roger was alive —- We also have to keep in mind his DF
  13. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    Exactly This. But just to add if character “A” isn’t fully proficient without a Blade then I view them as a swordsman.
  14. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    Whitebeard was neck and neck with Roger. Roger couldn't be WSM if there is someone who is his equal, I could be wrong but I believe Whitebeard earned the title WSM after Rogers death.
  15. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    Swordsman in One piece Zoro : Creates illusions, summons demons, Cabaji : Rides a tricycle spits fire Hachi : spits ink and also from time to time throws punches Brook : Can put you to sleep with music, also uses the coldness from his soul to enhance his sword (Similar to Big Mom) Law ...
  16. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    *REAL* Swordsman was never mentioned in the manga like ever, not once.
  17. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    THANKS DUDE Jin is the GOAT. The Ama no Murakumo is an actual named Blade in Japan, Borsalino literally conjures a Sword and is capable of fighting with it for a period of time, the fact Borsalino even names it is a testament to his Swordsmanship. We haven't gotten any other 1 on 1 fights...
  18. Rukusho

    General & Others the swordsmen debate

    I don’t understand the meaning of the thread. We can deduce that Law a DF user is a Swordsman Fujitora (based on Zatoichi) is a Swordsman ** Pure Swordsman ** <— is made up by the fandom to explain why “X” shouldn’t be stronger than “Y”, which never made sense. A Swordsman is plain and...
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