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So you think that it is true that Kiku’s blade wound last forever and you think that it is like to Ryou?

Yo:wonderland: That’s true :goyea: So yeah, Kinemon can send advanced haki slash but was not daring to touch Enma. As I said at that times and as I keep saying, Zoro taming Enma is a big big feat. And I think the more we will see Kinemon in action the more Zoro’s haki mastery will be hype :finally:

I do not see why it is pathetic honestly. Zoro has always been weak to peircing attack. This absolutely do not change the endurance feats that he has shown against slashing and blunt attacks. But some people absolutely want to brush off all of Zoro’s feats during the totality of the story...

How cutting Jack is better than pushing Fujitora back? How having a skirmish with Jack is better than having a skirmish with Fujitora and get out of it unscathed? How having a skirmish with Inuarashi is better than cutting down a mountain? I really don’t get it.

@ZenZu as a Zoro fans I’m more than willing to accept the narrative that Zoro did not came out of the TS stronger than Luffy or as strong as Doflamingo. When Zorojuro Vivre Card came out and we learned that Zoro was fighting assassins on daily basis,I said that it is Oda’s way to explain that...

Kinemon and Kanjuro who saw from they own eyes Oden’s swordsmanship and saw him cut Kaido were in total awe before Zoro cutting Pica’s golem which speak volume of Zoro’s level. And remember that those guys have travel in time which means that Oden’s feats were still fresh in their minds. If you...

-To hold the sword he need to be above the scabbards and near to Oden -To master it he need to be as strong s Oden -To blacken it he needs to be stronger than Oden Therefore it is depending on how strong one sees Oden’s strength:myman: