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  1. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    Well Kizaru and Luffy are very different for example. Kizaru is a versatile fighter true, but he relies on his light sword everytime a swordsman fights him as he proved. Luffy on the other hand is a clear occasional who has barely ever used a sword in his life.
  2. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    Occasional sword users can't really be defined as swordsmen. It's just ridiculous. Luffy simply isn't one. Big Mom and Kizaru are instead, because swords are their main weapons and they rely on it with frequency.
  3. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    The title refers to all swordsmen and other characters are exempt. However it's about the individuals' overall strenght and not just their swordsmanship skill. So either Shanks improves his skill with the sword or not it does not matter. What counts is that he beats Mihawk with a DF becoming WSS.
  4. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    Title refers to the individuals that are also swordsmen. So if Shanks eats a DF that allows him to defeat Mihawk then he becomes WSS
  5. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    Kizaru and Mihawk ain't even remotely comparable sword skill wise Being a swordsman + a top tier doesn't automatically fill such a wide gap
  6. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    Fujitora proved us how DFs are not a factor to determine swordsmanship, in fact he is a confirmed-by-Oda swordsman despite relying mostly on his insane DF power. Thing is everyone should understand using prominently a sword as a weapon is enough per se to be a swordsman. xd nothing else has...
  7. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    Akainu was powerful enough to match Gura Whitebeard's physical strenght, except Magu was way more lethal
  8. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    Smoothie is 100% a swordswoman It's as clear as sunlight going by that huge sword she carries and even the few times she used it
  9. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    Big Mom and Kizaru are definitely swordsmen Luffy not really honestly The distinction has to be made
  10. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    I feel the same. It doesn't matter if the sword is part of his DF, it still is a sword.
  11. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    I feel the same. The distinction between swordsman and sword user makes perfectly sense. This doesn't mean that Big Mom is not a swordswoman, since her case is different from Luffy's.
  12. Finalbeta

    General & Others Anyone who uses a sword is a swordsman. Yes, including Big Mom and Kizaru.

    Well it's pretty common and most importantly legit to make a distinction between swordsman and sword user. Some characters could use a sword once in their life but that's hard to believe that they are swordsmen. Swordsman = character prominently using a sword, independently from DFs, haki or...
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