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I was never proved wrong Oden wasn’t referring to any power level when he said he reached his limit But yea Zorotards go crazy Lmaooo you can’t say Zoro-tards

Yea? Where's the 21 year old Zoro with the black blade panel lmaoo that shit fiction

Except that's not reality... it's fiction You just proved my point

Oden wouldn't have even went to fight Kaido if he hadn't maxed out his emotional capacity for what had been happing to his country, friends and family That's why he explained his decision to his wife to leave and go fight, whereas he'd previously been by her side wait Your entire assumption is...

Bruh you're trippin if you think "reached my limit" isn't referring to his decision to stop waiting out the 5 year deal

I'm literally referring to the context He's no longer able to stand by while Kaido has his way He was in no means referring to his peak strength when talking to his wife He could've won the fight

I thought he’d reached his limit dealing with what Kaido and Orochi had been doing to the citizens, not his overall potential

Oh so I have to find it myself

2 swords were low quality, the one that was rusted in enies lobby, to our knowledge; wouldn’t have been safe had it been a higher quality even if Zoro had haki And Mihawk could probably also still break Zoro’s haki, but I’m unsure Drop the panel We don’t know if it’s time that matters or a...

Luffy wasn't shown to use black hardening against Hody And Ulti just overpowered Luffy This is what it looks like when someone's haki is inferior to another's The physical strength and striking force applied here were similar enough that the result of the clash is obviously attributed to the...

It's not the haki my guy It's the way he uses it The part of your post that is bolded is why Luffy's application is better than their FBH He mixes the 2, haki and DF, and gets increased hardness and elasticity Pica cant mix the 2, meaning the way he uses it is less effective in certain respects...

I’d have to reread to be sure Iirc his bamboo was hardened but it also expands That should be attributed to both the strength required to make bamboo blow up like that as well as the haki proficiency required to make the bamboo withstand that ballooning effect But no I don’t think Vergo is...

If something becomes better in ways other than just increased hardness, than his application of haki is inherently better than those who only increase hardness And as for Vergo I wasn’t sure if the coloration on his bamboo was consistent or not I agree that there’s no use for haki on the golem...

I think another thing we should clear up in this thread is being overpowered vs someone legitimately breaking your haki Ulti overpowered Luffy with her AP, he tried to stand his ground against her forte and was knocked back, that doesn’t indicate inferior haki Cracker broke through Luffy’s haki...

Yea We haven't seen Vergo or Pica keep a fight going long enough to see if they'd run out too, but it's safe to say FBH is similarly costly

Jesus I'm not saying that I'm saying the way Luffy applies his haki only in Gear 4, results in harmonized elasticity and hardness It's not "stronger" in that it's become harder. It's better because it provides 2 things rather than 1 We haven't seen them do what Luffy, Katakuri and Doflamingo...

Yes, you said there’s no difference in Luffy’s application of haki, there is not in one piece Yeah, Diced mochi too, as well as Doflamingo technically I'm only talking about Pica and Vergo 1606146810 I'm not saying Gear 4 makes Luffy's haki harder It's just a better application of haki than...

The thing is, we have no clue if their abilities can retain their attributes while hardened with haki like Luffy’s can He, somehow, when using Gear 4; can harmonize his elasticity with his haki’s hardness We have no clue if Pica has the same fluid like control over his stone if he were to harden...

Well... to be frank Zoro’s katana don’t even touch the stone golem...