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True but for the most part i was just talking about base luffy. Tho its definitely impressive hes able to fuse his haki with his devil fruit in g4 Tbf its more than just coating his blade knew a technique that luffy didn't know. Something he had to be taught by hygoro tho he even surpassed it...

Because its a coa feat Also we don't know if age effects haki and chinjao was definitely a high tier in his prime. Zoro and pica both said the winner of their final clash was based on coa. Unless both dont know what their talking about. We dont know if law was using haki or not cause...

Yet Luffy still has the better armament vs armament portrayal against way stronger characters Luffy was easily able to break through chinjao's haki Pica's haki was hyped to be tougher to cut than his golem and doffys haki is definitely stronger than his. With luffy being able to break through...

Why doesn't it? Its not like zoro has been shown to be able to defend his body from anything like that Weve seen luffy clash with multiple characters with strong armament pre wano We only really know zoro had stronger haki than pica pre wano

:okay: And like i said zoro was more skillful in armament pre wano Tho that doesn't mean his haki is stronger unless you believe every weapon user has stronger haki

I say that cause zoro was able to use it in a way luffy wasn't. Tho he learned how to use it from hyogoro and even surpassed it Yeah luffy being able to fuse his armament with his devil fruit is likely also a high level technique but its hard to compare that usage to some one that doesn't even...

Apoo has hax abilities the make his attacks unpredictable and hard to avoid. The only real counter seems to be covered your ears Zoro didn't use armament to defend himself either but unlike luffy he and apoo have acted been clashing with haki. With apoo able to defend himself fine even post emna

Yall know apoo being able to temporarily ko luffy doesn't have anything to do with armament right? Apoo being able to hold off zoro's armament attacks do tho

Pre wano armament Zoro > luffy in skill/technique Luffy > zoro in strength

True zoros lucky he has his swords as an extra defense that he can add coa to We know he isn't the best when it comes to using coa to defend his actual body

Or zoro vs pica and zoro vs apoo :willsmith:

A more advanced form of armament than normal Oda hasn't really named any of it

Kinemon, kiku, etc. don't have stronger haki than luffy. They just had a skill luffy hadn't learned yet Like marigold knows barrier haki, the kuja in general can imbue their arrows with haki, vergo can coat his whole body, most weapon users with haki can coat them with it All skills luffy...

Dressrosa: Luffy vs chinjao Luffy vs Bellamy Luffy vs doflamingo Zoro vs pica Wci: Luffy vs cracker Luffy vs katakuri https://imgur.com/a/XEmHT0y Onigashima: Luffy vs ulti https://imgur.com/a/3YBpJ9y Zoro vs apoo https://imgur.com/a/o13nUku

Yeah with higher end attacks he can definitely bypass his haki but when it comes to which of the two have stronger armament ima go with luffy Like even tho sanji specializes in coo i wouldn't say its better than luffy's

Luffy's armament vs armament feats (excluding g4) Easily able to overpower chinjao's Bellamy could break through it with his attack power tbh his haki is obviously weaker Could break through doffys in close combat and defend himself from awakening for a while before his haki fully restored Tho...

Bellamy's attack power + haki broke through luffys haki Luffy still has better haki then Bellamy Weak character doesn't mean all their attacks are weak

Doesn't make either feat from apoo or daz less legit If zoro was put in that situation without his swords hes having a worse time :kayneshrug:

Luffys haki was basic in the sense he only used the basic application of it. Basic not meaning the haki itself was weak Like luffy couldn't apply his haki the same as the kuja tribe, marigold, vergo, or just most weapon users that can coat it. Mainly because he wasn't taught those applications...

Tbf specializing in 1 haki more than another doesn't automatically make it stronger than someone who specializes in a different one And i don't think either zoro or sanji have shown overall better haki than luffy Most of rayleighs training was specifically dedicated to teaching luffy haki off...