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I fully understand that Kizaru is weak and unable to beat Big Mom and Kaidou. Kizaru's speed isn't a problem for anyone, it wasn't a problem for Luffy who is slower than Kaidou, will it be for Kaidou? Kizaru is a kind of privileged YC1 with only one high stat and the rest being MID.

I think that speed that Kaidou used against Snakeman relative, if not faster. We also have Kizaru leaving and Luffy arriving a little later in gear 5, and Kaidou is faster than Luffy.

Perfect, Yonkou Luffy humiliated and caused deep damage mentally to the kizaru, left him lying on the bow of a ship panting and unable to get up.

Man, it’s getting funny. The guy gets hit in the head, falls to the ground trembling, tells Saturn that he won’t be able to get up for a while because of the attack, and your conclusion is that he wasn’t physically harmed at all? You know, even if you keep denying it to yourself, the...

No, man, there’s no way you can call that mere damage, because first of all, I don’t think “mere damage” would be enough to make someone tremble. Secondly, why would mere damage be enough to leave me unable to get up for a while? You see? Mere damage is something I can ignore and keep going...

I don’t think Kizaru did well in the first round, here are my opinions: Luffy fought restricted and without using Acoc, and we can visibly see this against Snakeman. If you want, you can compare it with the Snakeman who fought against Kaidou; there were lightning bolts everywhere. Kizaru’s kick...

How should brain damage influence the outcome of a squeeze?

Why in one scene does Kizaru spit blood when caught by the giant Luffy and in the other he doesn't spit blood? The most obvious answer is that in the first scene Luffy was not serious, while in the second the context demanded more seriousness from him. It's not an inconsistency, it's just Luffy...

Minimize the powerful attacks from Kaidou that were making Gear 5 vomit tons of blood as much as you want; it still won’t justify Kizaru’s inability to do the same as Kaidou, which is: give a full-power beating to Gear 5 without any restrictions. Even if I agreed with you that Kaidou’s blows did...

You need to make up your mind, Kizaru wasn't injured yet he spits blood, isn't the fact that someone spits blood concrete proof that they were injured? It's obvious that Blud's internal organs were crushed, the fact that he's still alive and awake is almost insane 😭, so they are deep wounds...

The Stars Gun was indeed powerful, to the point of causing brain damage to Kizaru, I don't dispute that. "100%HP", man, Saturn + Kizaru = Humiliated. And do you think a Kizaru could do better against Luffy before food? Did you see how the first round of the restricted Luffy vs Kizaru ended...

Kizaru's performance was his peak, and he was simply humiliated by Yonkou Luffy even when he received help from Saturn, the damage suffered by him was internal, Oda is also not good at portraying injured characters and he was never consistent with that. 1723850720 In fact, however 2 hits and...

Serious ? Strange, he spits blood, and there is no damage? Was he also pretending that it was blood? I think it was squeezed tomato. Maybe the fact that he was shaking on the floor, and according to his own words he would need time to compose himself, is all an act? Did he also simulate the...

Yes, actually receiving a Stars Gun and falling to the ground shaking and unable to compose himself only caused him emotional damage. Being squeezed like an orange by Gear 5 while spitting blood and breathing heavily is another mental injury. And finally being turned into a pizza and crashing...

Thrown into the sea, I didn't say fell into the sea.

The same Luffy who caught Kizaru and threw him into the sea? I wonder how many hits he could land on a completely immobilized Kizaru in that situation. Besides that, was Luffy really trying? Because it’s clearly visible that he only starts to really do something when Franky gets his attention.

How did it take the entire first round to land the first hit? Kaidou was hitting Luffy even in his dragon form. Don’t pretend that Kaidou had any difficulty hitting Luffy, because he didn’t. You have Luffy in escape mode, using his maximum speed in Gear 5 with spinning effects and flames...

Since Marineford, I had him on par with Ben Beckman; the guy's portrayal was always fighting against the number 2s: Marco Ben Beckman Old Rayleigh severely nerfed by age

Kaidou beats Kizaru in everything; the difference is brutal: physical strength, attack power, endurance, durability, attack speed, reaction speed, movement speed, area of effect, Haki, and Hax.