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They ate too much Turkey. MF's got food coma'd.

Literally quotes a post where I speak about Enma retaining Odens haki in reference to a black blade, to try and prove that when I say Enma retains Oden's Haki, I am not talking about Black Blades.... You can't make this shit up. :milaugh: Find a post of me saying Zoro uses Oden's Haki with...

Soooooo.... You got nothing? Cool.

Lets not act like Enma wasn't boosting Zoro's attacks by expending way more Haki than normal. Was it making it harder for him to remain focused? Sure. But it was a double edge sword. Harder to control, but much more lethal attacks. Zoro himself even stated that by mastering Enma he'll...

How does that change anything I said about it being in reference to black blades?

I still think the only way to make a Black Blade is by the Sword absorbing a users Haki. That won't change until we get confirmation on what makes a black blade. Other than that, Enma is a good powerup for Zoro. I don't even think what's happening now is an asspull, as it is inline with...

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In other posts I said Enma was doing something to Zoro's haki. But in any post I ever claimed about Enma storing Oden's haki, it was always in reference to becoming a black blade. Me and @ShishioIsBack debated on this for a bit, and I always maintained it about being in reference to a black blade.

And I literally said Enma was doing something to Zoro's haki in a boatload of other posts. Nice try. Show a post that has me saying he is using Odens Haki.

No, my argument was always about Swords absorbing haki in order to become Black Blades. Never about Zoro using Oden's haki while fighting. And yes, all fans shit talk about asspulls and powerups. And I am going to call people on their bullshit who asks other fandoms not to shit talk, when...

Oh yeah? Show me these gazillion posts where I say Zoro is USING Oden's haki via enma.... And what the fuck does that have to do with shit talking about asspulls and powerups?

"Lets not shit talk now that it's happening to Zoro, even though we the Zoro fandom shit talked aggressively the entire time it happened to other fandoms characters." Fixed....

That seriously seems to be the case. For some reason King and Queen seem to be the exception to how Yonko Commanders and above have been portrayed.

You're ignoring Katakuri using FS non stop for 11 hours, which clearly factored into how exhausted he had become towards the end of the fight. He didn't need to accumulate a ton of damage, when exhaustion can play a similar role into his inevitable defeat. Same thing with Cracker and him...

Luffy had to train in order to overcome Katakuri's FS and beat him. Just because Zoro becomes able to damage King, it doesn't automatically mean that all of King's other stats all of a sudden take a massive dump, and Zoro is now above him. It would even the playing field, and put Zoro closer...

Yes. Luffy fought Katakuri. For 11 hours. The same thing with Cracker. He lost brutally to Kaido, who is well above YC level. What is the correlations here to how fast you think a YC should be put down, relative to how close their opponent is to them in strength? Luffy went into the...

Been saying the same exact thing about Queen this whole time. Let me ask you a simple question. How much time do you think is reasonable for a fresh Yonko Commander to lose to a heavily injured opponent, in a 1 v 1, given all the portrayal YC's have received?

And Jack is still the best example of what I am trying to point out here. Oda had him fight the entire Sulong Mink army, and then fight Sulong Duke and Neko at the same time. That set up his defeat at the hands of Sulong Duke. Meanwhile, characters like Queen and King have suffered barely any...

Kaido is significantly stronger than King, and so far King has been significantly stronger than Zoro. If Zoro has enough time, he would definitely be able to turn the tides and chip away at King's health in order to defeat him. But time is not on the Alliances' side at the moment. I have...

How much damage has Kaido received, and by how many different characters? How much damage has King received?