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  1. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Tanking != Blocking. If the Admirals were by themselves, they could have probably tanked it with zero damage. They blocked it to protect the execution stand and the other Marines (like Zoro blocking it so the SN could escape). I think it's a high top tier feat of defensive prowess. I haven't...
  2. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    I don't disagree with that, but the fact is that one Admiral did not perform the feat but Three. I think one Admiral should have been able to replicate the feat, but that isn't what happened. And there's no reason for Three Admirals to work together for something 1 Admiral can accomplish. So we...
  3. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Mihawk was testing Whitebeard. He suspected that Whitebeard had become weaker and so he was feeling him out. Mihawk's slash that bisected the Iceberg was stronger. It caused far greater destruction. It used two arms vs one arm for the Jozu slash. Mihawk has never fought seriously on panel...
  4. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Which of the premises do you think is false: Three Admirals (mid top tiers) worked together to completely stop the attack of one Yonkou Hakai is a combination finisher attack of two Yonkou in their powered up forms Kaido was in his Hybrid Mama had fused with Prometheus Hakai is immensely...
  5. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Wait, you already knew it was him? Or you didn't think it was a dupe? :choppawhat: You can't freely use emotes on profile pages. :yodaswag: Nah. Kidd was grateful for Zoro saving his life. If not for Zoro, the other 4 would be dead. They had no ability to deal with the attack by themselves...
  6. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Nah, it's a high top tier feat: Zoro's feat in 1009 is unparalleled in One Piece, and the closest analogue required Three top tiers working together. Zoro alone literally has a feat that dwarfs the feat of three top tiers together. Zoro isn't a high top tier (at best, he's a low top tier), but...
  7. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    @Chaves: your entire post lacks the slightest shred of credibility. Marco did not block Borsalino's strongest attack Jozu did not block Mihawk's strongest attack Hakai is far stronger than the greeting Mihawk sent at Whitebeard Zoro stopped the attack for several seconds. Here's the sequence...
  8. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Yonkou portrayal finally. Thank you Goda. :steef:
  9. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Wait, was the guy crying about the mods Garp's dupe? I placed them on ignore after seeing a couple of their posts and that they had just joined. it was like: "wow, I'm really not going to enjoy what they have to say".
  10. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Doflamingo had a more impressive feat. Dressrosa is significantly larger than Onigashima, and his Bird Cage spanned the entire country. It required him to be conscious to operate, but it was otherwise able to continue independently of him. In my defense, I haven't really had the experience of...
  11. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Luffy doesn't have it though, so it's not a point in his favour. If Issho doesn't have an Awakening, then current Zoro vs Issho would be a debatable matchup IMO. I guess Issho should be scaled to being at least on par with Kaido's Base by virtue of being an Admiral. Can Zoro beat Base Kaido...
  12. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    I think they will sit out of the fight for a bit. Source? Kaido had great feats this chapter, but lifting Onigashima is not ones of them. Lifting Onigashima (like Doffy's Bird Cage) doesn't seem to tax him at all. There's no indication that it's in any way, shape or form hampering his combat...
  13. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Future Sight confers Luffy no advantage against Zoro. Zoro has canonically outreacted FS Luffy on several occasions: He stopped Batman's arrow from striking Otsuru. He warned Luffy about Apoo's attack He intercepted Mama's Heavenly Fire He intercepted Kaido's Boro Breath King's Haki is...
  14. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    While Kaido took most of the offense of the Supernova, I think you're greatly understating Mama's contribution. She was the best support, showed amazing initiative and the more tactical of the two. Mama's contributions on panel: Support While Kaido was dazed from Scyther Sonic and Killer went...
  15. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Sakazuki is Fleet Admiral and I place him above the others. BTW, you should tag me when you address me, it was just by chance I saw your initial question.
  16. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Nah, it strongly fits with everything else: Law asks him if he's still alive in the aftermath of the attack: Zoro is shown panting again: Killer asks him if he's able to perform the combo attack to remove Mama: Zoro replies that there's no alternative, so he will just have to: At the end of...
  17. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    This is some exquisite Kaido wank, but he actually dodged the attack. Welcome back BTW. :myman: I have Hybrid Kaido at high top tier and above Borsalino. Sakazuki is the only of the Admirals I think might be on par with him. Yeah, I don't think he's KOed, but he'll take a breather from the...
  18. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    He removed his bandana: Leaving aside that he's heavily coughing up blood, he took off his banada. He'll be sitting out the fight for a bit. I agree. Does he have much stronger attacks though? This is a Kaido that was trying to kill Luffy. I would say the Roof Five have given two Yonkou a...
  19. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Stop being a dick.
  20. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

    Don't you think Three-World Ragnarok was a high-end move? Hakai seemed to be much stronger despite that. Ragnarok is far stronger. It's comparable to the attack Roger used in his clash with Primebeard. Given that Sakazuki and Kuzan do, he probably does as well. Because his Awakening would...
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