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  1. Cinera

    One Piece Chapter 1009 - Hell

    All top Commanders get instantly deleted by this attack. Oden couldn't block a much weaker attack, and he's above all of them: I have no idea what you're talking about, Oden has his sword up and in the trajectory of the slash. It looks like a block to me: No, he just didn't want...
  2. Cinera

    One Piece Chapter 1009 - Hell

    My reply to @rerere on the issue:
  3. Cinera

    One Piece Chapter 1009 - Hell

    I don't see it. We see Kidd prepare the cage and then tell Law "it's ready": The idea that one person came up with the plan is further supported by Killer and Zoro's scene. Killer asks Zoro if he's able to perform his role: It really seems that one person (Law) came up with the plan to...
  4. Cinera

    One Piece Chapter 1009 - Hell

    Nah, Linlin's removal took all four of them working together. If Zoro had not neutralised Prometheus, Linlin would never have been removed. IMO for Linlin's removal, it's: Law He came up with the plan to remove Linlin and figured out how to best utilise their skillsets to accomplish it...
  5. Cinera

    One Piece Chapter 1009 - Hell

    I think you're reading way too much into the wording: "let's try a combined attack". We know that: Hakai is an upgraded version of Hakoku Hakoku was the ultimate attack of two Elbaf Giants Hakai is far more powerful than Ikkoku Sovereignty I mean, Mama may have already perfected her...
  6. Cinera

    One Piece Chapter 1009 - Hell

    I didn't think about Oden, but you're completely right. In this chapter, Zoro demonstrated: High top tier physical strength He had the physical strength to hold back a combination finisher attack of two high top tiers for several seconds Compare to Jimbe who was sent flying after a much...
  7. Cinera

    One Piece Chapter 1009 - Hell

    Nah, I think they have done it before. I mean in the first place it's an upgraded version of Hakoku. Hakoku: Hakai: Even the naming supports that Hakai is an upgraded technique. Hakoku means "Conquering a Nation". Hakai means "Conquering the Sea". Kaido asks Mama if she can still perform...
  8. Cinera

    One Piece Chapter 1009 - Hell

    I don't really endorse the deflecting Hakai argument. I was having fun wanking Zoro to the maximum in the spoiler thread.
  9. Cinera

    One Piece Chapter 1009 - Hell

    I have half a dozen threads to write on the events of this chapter (over the weekend, my procrastination at work is finally catching up to me. catded), but for now: Supernova trio: :gonope: Yonkou trio: :goyea: The Grandmaster stops the attack of two Yonkou and challenges them head-on. The...
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