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  1. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Zoro's first big power up postskip was Haoshoku coating. Oden was also capable of Haoshoku coating. It seems as if Haoshoku coating is related to the process of forging Black Blades. The ship has already sailed on any other category being as important to Top Tier swordsmen as Haoshoku coating...
  2. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Reread the chapter, slower this time.
  3. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Zoro implied it with his own words this chapter. Zoro will surpass Oden when he blackens Enma.
  4. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    King > Rooftop Zoro > Killer. Giving Killer the benefit of the doubt, King mid diffs. He'll bombard Killer with Wind Scythes and fire bullets while flying around him. Once he spots an opening, he'll nuke Killer with Tempura Udon.
  5. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    What are you talking about? Zoro himself is still weaker than Oden.
  6. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Nah at least you're actually trying. The traditional Katakuri wankers have either thrown in the towel or have lost all credibility.
  7. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Enma also ran amok before Asura:
  8. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Haoshoku coating not Advanced COA, but yes.
  9. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    @Dark Admiral: this is how King vs Smoothie ends.
  10. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    He can't do anything to Marco or King either. King has a Zoan durability above Kaido's dragon scales, and he's capable of self healing/regeneration through his flames.
  11. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    No it does not: Luffy vs Kaido in 1012 Yamato vs Kaido in 1016 Neither of these two clashes split the heavens. Splitting the heavens is a symbol of Emperor level Haoshoku. If Zoro and King have a clash of Haoshoku coated attacks, I don't think it'll split the heavens. That would detract too...
  12. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Katakuri and King are not on the same level.
  13. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Well, Sanji was a neg diff material for King, so it makes a certain sense.
  14. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Only Haoshoku coating has lightning emanating from the weapon. Ryuo does not. Enma was emphasised in Hiryuu Kaen, Tatsumaki, and even for Dead Man's Game. I don't see how your argument is credible.
  15. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Far too simplistic. That doesn't warrant this statement by him: King has an extra ability that allows him to soak up damage to a level beyond even Kaido. Causterising his wounds doesn't explain that, nor does it answer the question of the flames on his back.
  16. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Only if they defeat her. Even then, Yamato held her own against Hybrid Kaido in a 1 vs 1 for quite a while.
  17. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    There are a few instances where Enma didn't go crazy when Zoro used COA against King, so I don't buy this argument.
  18. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Asura isn't Haoshoku. Zoro released Haoshoku in Dead Man's Game.
  19. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

    Yamato > Kidd and Law. Sanji at the end of the Queen fight would be above Killer.
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