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  1. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Well, I think Zoro will still be stronger because he'll kill Kaido.
  2. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Not really, but I'm not claiming that Imperial Flame ~ Borsalino's sacred jewels technique. Marco's best defensive feat against King is blocking Imperial Flame. King creates the magma by combining his fire with his Ryuo, so it's not just fire that resembles magma. King's Imperial Flames were...
  3. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    But his slower form was landing attacks fine before this chapter. He tanked a Haoshoku Thunder Bagua from Hybrid Kaido. He could counter attack and land Injection Shot on Kaido. He reacted to several attacks from the Yonkou. So I think his basic physical abilities rose considerably. His...
  4. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Yeah, he's much stronger.
  5. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    There is no way to counter King. Zoro never countered King. King simply switched to superspeed mode (where he will molly woop Zoro much worse) when he saw Zoro's Haoshoku coating. Zoro never cut the flame on his back or disabled it. King abandoned his invulnerability hax to power up with...
  6. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Panel? I don't recall this. Marco blocking Sakazuki's magma is irrelevant because: Not all Sakazuki's magma attacks are equal. Marco needed his strongest technique to match a much weaker attack. Canonically, he holds no such advantages against King. That's how fear analysis works. Saying...
  7. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    King doesn't have any weakness. He voluntarily abandoned his fire defence this chapter because of Zoro's Haoshoku coating. Perhaps his fire defence doesn't work on Haoshoku coating attacks? All the attacks that King tanked were in his speed form. And he tanked an attack that should be > the...
  8. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Speed form King tanked a few Haoshoku coating attacks without much issue. The leftmost middle panel has Haoshoku coating on the Sandai Kitetsu.
  9. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    That portrayal was against a masked King. Masked and unmasked King are not the same combatants. It could be accumulated damage Pre exoskeleton. It could be the strain of Ifrit Jambe. It could be the stamina consumption of his high speed movements. It could be the attacks Queen landed in...
  10. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    I feel like he's a class above them. I don't think they have adequate answers for the abilities he showed this chapter. Even in his speed form, his resilience is insane. This sounds reasonable. King tanked Haoshoku attacks from Zoro in his speed form.
  11. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Haoshoku attack:
  12. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    ' A Mihawk without Yoru has no purpose. I don't want any Black Blades to be destroyed, especially not Yoru ("the finest in the world"). If this happens, it'll make me seriously reconsider ZKK. Zoro cuts cleanly through the dragon, he doesn't behead it: I mean that he didn't counter it the...
  13. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Eh, I don't see it. Like it's a foregone conclusion that Zoro will survive. IMO, the Mink Medicine might be used to nerf Zoro (like he was after Thriller Bark) to keep him out of action in Elbaf. I'm guessing that current Zoro is > Zoro after surviving those odds (assuming ZKK/forging a Black...
  14. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Stop this. How is Marco supposed to justify such a close placement to King? Unmasked King > Damaged Mask King > Full Mask King, and Marco only fought Full Mask King. Marco has nothing on Unmasked King: How does Marco deal with King's hyperspeed? How does Marco deal with his CQC prowess? How...
  15. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    I was hoping that Zoro crashes into Wano somewhere. If he beheads Kaido, it would be when Kaido is trying to destroy the Flower Capital.
  16. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Full Mask King. The weakest version of King. No, speed form King is still far too durable for Katakuri. Please stop this slander. Speed form King tanked several Haoshoku coating attacks from Zoro: The first of those should be stronger than the attack that scarred Kaido (a Santoryu...
  17. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Speed form King >>. The problem is that I don't think King used Haoshoku coating. I think that was all Zoro.
  18. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Speed form King > Katakuri in defence and is resilient enough to withstand attacks stronger than what scarred Kaido. Defence form King is flat out invulnerable. How strong do you think King is now? How do the following fights go (who wins and at what difficulty)? King vs Queen King vs...
  19. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Unmasked King? He mid diffs. Katakuri can't hurt him at all, and his Imperial Dragon Flames demolishes everything. His speed form, would also give Katakauri problems. No, Unmasked King is King's strongest form. It's Unmasked King >> Damaged Mask King >> Full Mask King. Full Mask King: Zoan...
  20. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

    Marco already failed to counter weaker flames. The AP behind the attack matters as well as the force. The total AP of Imperial Flames requires Undying Thistle to block. The total AP of Imperial Dragon Flames is much greater. It's not just fire, it's fire + Ryuo.
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