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  1. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    "Our attacks are only effective when they're flames drop" Still doesn't change the meaning bro. Why? Shouldn't he ignore that attack since he won't get damaged? If King was really scared of CoC like you say, he wouldn't be putting his body on the line at all. Doffy didn't have a sword and...
  2. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    Ergo King has blocked, same as Zoro. And he basically isn't a wall just straight up walking through attacks 24x7 unless they are CoC laced. I never said Queen is King, my point is you don't need to dodge in order to shoot. And how does that make sense? If CoC works on flame on, King would lose...
  3. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    - Clash of swords ergo King blocks, parriers, deflects etc,. - What does shooting lasers have to do with dodging? Queen hasn't dodged a single attack in the entire manga and his entire schtick is shooting lasers. - Blocking with his leg when Zoro can slice Flame Mode with CoC? My brother in...
  4. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    Tatsumaki is one. Here are the rest: Here's him dodging 360 Pd Hawk with Flames on. Even during the very exchange you guys talk about, here's him using his own leg to parry with Zoro's swords in flames on, when he was apparently scared of CoC. If that was something relevant, then Zoro...
  5. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    It doesn't. Because King was blocking/dodging/engaging in Cqc even in flame mode before CoC. The point is CoC changed virtually nothing in that fight regarding how to get through King, it only helped Zoro to take him down before Enma would kill him. I'm on PC now so here are the scans. After...
  6. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    He was scared of losing since the secret was out. Again, Geo read the chapter. King said "I sense the threat you represent" at the start of the chapter, before his flashback even. Or simply, he noticed that King was in Flame Off and decided to attack? 1678364625 Yep. This has gone far beyond...
  7. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    Its something that goes beyond just mere durability imo. No one really said King is the toughest guy in the manga, it still is Kaido. Its just total invulnerability, something thats fit for a race compared to Gods. May tie into something like their beliefs in the Sun God (King was waiting for...
  8. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    No one can get through Flame On. Its just Invincible. The only way to beat Lunarians is by attacking when Flames drop.
  9. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    Because thats really the only way to deal with Lunarians. It was called out right after Zoro hurt him in Flame Off mode, when King started to backtrack & was scared. This happened long before and after seeing CoC being used. We didnt hear his internal monologue of whether he was checking the...
  10. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    Because the main take away there was to attack Flame Off. Not use your high end moves on Flame On. Thats based on King blocking which he did both Pre and Post CoC. I do not know for sure but I definitely dont believe that he has one.
  11. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    Because the way i see it, its like the "skills not strength" nitpicking. Neither did Zoro harm Flame On on panel, nor did he ask Luffy to use his CoC/highend moves etc,. He simply asked to attack Flame Off. The point is Oda isnt sitting there with an Attack Tier list and measuring which attack...
  12. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    How can anyone destroy something that's Invincible? No one can.
  13. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    Why? I'm not talking about Fishman Karate itself, I'm simply talking about a Fishman's ability to manipulate water - and that's dependend on mastery is it not? Can a baby fishman manipulate water as good as Jinbe? I'm not talking about Sulong itself, I'm simply talking about a Mink's ability to...
  14. ConquistadoR

    Questions & Mysteries Which character will be the first one to destroy Lunarian defense?

    It isnt. Just because they cloned Kizaru's lasers doesnt mean its the same as the original as with the Pacifistas. Same applies here. Just like every racial ability in the verse has a learning curve (Fishman Water manipulation/FMK, Electro/Sulong for Minks) so does the Lunarian ability. King...
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