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  1. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    There's no objective comparison. When we look at it up to now: - Near peak Oden was put on his ass by a decent attack from Roger. Hakai would probably send him flying even at his final battle. - Hybrid Kaido wasn't a thing back then - Kaido dodged Hiryu Kaen. The Asura attack didn't leave the...
  2. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    Surpassing limits :risicheck: EoS Oden's greatest wins are young Asura Doji and mid level Kaido. If you don't think King and Kaido back to back in present day are better feats then you simply won't listen to reason. Zoro will unquestionably be above Oden by the end of this story and only...
  3. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    This statement is life support to a certain argument. Nevermind that on the exact same page Zoro is just like oh I'll do it too then I guess. *BEBEN*
  4. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    The Scabbards have his will... he uses his dying words to talk them up. Momonosuke has his will, he is his son and has had struggles to uphold his legacy since Zou. Yamato has Oden's will, besides that throwaway compliment hardly anyone would remember, Yamato reiterates fighting alongside Luffy...
  5. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    Lol, I don't think I remember Yamato comparing Luffy to Oden. Yamato is the one who actually claims to be Oden... As far as the ceiling thing goes, that's just reading the wrong lines too deeply. If you think the characters he sees as legends are actually being compared, then you have to say...
  6. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    There's an interesting argument there because I think the biggest obstacle by far was having Zoro disappear for a year and a half, when they went to rescue Sanji and flat out didn't have the level to actually fight Big Mom. Coming out of Wano there are tje huge end game fish we know and maybe a...
  7. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    You didn't understand. What I mean is that of Zoro is definitely going to surpass Oden then you might as well say that the question of when is irrelevant. Some will say he did it now or then or whatever, but that really won't be clear because it's not like it's metric based or anything
  8. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    See I don't understand that because Roger was well above Oden. Zoro can exceed him here and all that does is set them up to then be on par with Roger and Rayleigh in the next arc Given that for now, they still need to team up to overcome the highest level of opponents (obviously with Kaido...
  9. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    Then it's irrelevant to begin with. Unless we have an actual statement on Zoro's strength compared to Oden in this arc then it'll be fair game to say he's as strong or stronger since he'll end up stronger, right? And what I would bet is that the only statement regarding strength in comparison...
  10. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    The difference with the point I was making is that it relies on us seeing that Zoro is at least that strong. It's not just comparing 21 vs 21, because that's worthless if Zoro never actually gets to where Oden ended up. If Zoro is right there then he's guaranteed to get stronger than Oden.
  11. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    Luffy is surpassing them in the sense that none of those men were able to end Kaido's career as a pirate even if they defeated him. He wonders if Luffy compares himself, and in another sense he'll still need to do more to prove himself after since there's more to becoming pirate king. Zoro in...
  12. Fn Lucci

    General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

    LMAO I'll give you this, Oden fought through the Beasts to face Kaido man to man. So there is a difference But 51% of voters are gonna look silly if they're saying they don't think Zoro will be on a higher pedestal. Kaido himself will probably give the lip service
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