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  1. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    The ope ope was not for the emperors, it was to fully control the world with what he knows, we dont know what it is.
  2. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    The i will to check the manga again.
  3. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    Acoa is also not touching.
  4. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    That is what I said. Yet, they are still conquers clashes, not as the ones in the rooftop of Onigashima.
  5. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    Maybe not whole arc, but it was pointed many times the clash of conquers since the begining of dresrossa in the colleseum. Cant believe people are saying it didnt happen lol.
  6. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    Mmmm no, it was conquers haki clashes too. Heck, with Doffy vs Luffy it was Trebol who pointed it and with Katakuri, it was Flambe who pointed it. Even Don Chinjao vs Luffy, I think it was Diamante who pointed the usage of conquers haki. The difference IMO is that, one thing is externing the...
  7. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    Ryou is haki. Just as observation haki is known as mantra in the sky island. Just apple in english and manzana in spanish. The same thing, different way of calling it.
  8. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    I believe it is the same concept the "advanced control" of armament and conquer, but that is not ryou, ryou is just haki. So it will be advanced haki and advanced ryou and normal haki and normal ryou. I think you are just giving a name (ryou) to the advanced form, which is wrong. It could be...
  9. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    There is nothing such as ryou concept, ryou is just how Wano knows haki. They just have different ways of using it such as Amazon Lilith. They show their swordsman or at least the best to flow thier haki (ryou) to their sword.
  10. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    You are right, nothing supports that, yet I believe that this the closest it could be to reality. And I never said he used them before, there has already been conquers haki clashes, but just not like in the rooftop with Kaido.
  11. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    Well Luffy said that Kaido used Conquers haki on his attacks and then Luffy suddenly was able to do it with no training. I can surely assure that it follows the same principle. Unlike his normal conquers clashes where you just drive out your conquers haki and do not concetrate to a point...
  12. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    Well, that is the difference of levels. Sometimes you will need training. I mean, Luffy had luck to find someone to teach him a different version of Armament Haki otherwise he might have never learned it at that point. And thanks to that and that Advanced Conquers might have the same pinciple...
  13. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    Who is talking about surpassing Kaido? It is not plot, it is ability and power. Roger might not even been the strongest, it was Whitebeard who had the title. Roger was strong and lucky.
  14. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    Yes the main characters, but also the increase of power of a weaker person is much easier than someone who is already strong.
  15. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    Dont you know what were the trades? In Dresrossa was said that Doflamingo had a large traffic of weapons with a some rare mineral, mineral that comes from Wano. Then we also saw that some weapons were traded from wano to the WG thanks to Doffy. He was doing ok.
  16. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    You were right until you said he was working for Kaido. Doflamingo was not working for him, they were partners. Do you think that Kaido forced Doffy to do the smiles or was it Doflamingo who went with Kaido to make a deal? After all, how could Kaido know Doflamingo could produce them? It must...
  17. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    His Warlord title does not give him protection form pirates as full, his mision is to defeat pirates in the name of the WG, so pirates can attack him. The WG uses the Warlords for that, but in the case of Doflamingo, he also could use the WG for his benefit. And he did not work under Kaido...
  18. Kiiro

    Character Discussion Would Doflamingo be stronger if...

    1.- It doesnt seem he lacked motivation to aim for the top, he did have big dreams, dreams on the level of Luffy or Zoro, not being the pirate king or the best swordsman, but taking down the whole World Goverment and the Celestial Dragons and that might be a huge feat. His problem was he viewed...
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