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yeah a snooze fest gonna be honest I have just been skimming chapters lately

146 page on a Thursday ..... either the chap is dead or the forum is dead judging by the wc thread its the former

I think oda doesn't want to make it too complex /realistic adding all those layers to it would be excessive . this way it would seem plausible that peace is achieved if vegapunk gets to work . after all, we are following the story of a messiah that will restore balance in the entire world.

imagine if after all this arguing they don't even fight

facts

Nice to see another oden Stan here tbh but based on your lucci takes am afraid we won't see eye to eye

fighting strong people is what did that haki blooms in extreme situations katakuri kaido respectively he got the basics down in 2 yrs the same basics law and Kidd have in coa and coo without training.

lol I know Oda's on some fuckery what I won't do is use it to justify why am wrong in an argument . imagine I talk big game about zkk and when the L comes I say its all about oda being dense. would you take that ? be realistic you know lucci won't be low diffed you've seen luffy all...

right but your point made it seem like it was impossible for a cp0 agent to get that strong I explained technically there's no cap yet on how strong they might be . tldr oda can make them as strong as the plot demands problem? 1669871716 on the run entire time and went from cp9 to cp0 fairs .

Rayleigh training was less effective than just gaining exp through new world luffy jumped to yc1 + by actually fighting people .

why not , hypothetically speaking big mom could have been a cp0 agent. There isn't a cap on how strong they can be He doesn't have to be this so called " yonko level" to give luffy smoke. 1669870783 If you aren't reading am afraid am not reading either we wait on that low diff .

. "Right because the author is infallible I'm sure, don't fucking pretend that it makes even the slightest narrative sense for Lucci to actually match a guy who was matching Kaido, you simply can't rationalize that other than Oda being Oda, not like this is the first time he's written...

there are 6 attacks you listed , stronger than a kong gun which still makes it one of luffy's strongest attacks . I don't have to prove he used ryou on the kong gun . the real answer was just never shown .there's zero way to tell if luffy was using ryou or not . you happened to just hop on the...

ancient zoans getting more extreme /resilient would be boring too tbh they already do that

let oda do his thing complaints come later

depending on how they do here we will get the answer to that

padding the attack names with Acoa to make your list bigger is comedic not to mention the assumption he wasn't using ryou is head canon at best . "As I mentioned, Rokuogan is the peak of Rokushiki so it's pretty unlikely that he has something greater unless you believe he has advanced haki...

interesting point I wonder how their awakenings would work iirc they aren't even ancient zoans just regular

a kong gun in g4 was one of his strongest attacks back prior to g5 a rokuogan was Lucci's strongest attack prets doubt its the same now.