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This page entirely kills the chance of Oden being alive: Here it specifically says "Mankind cannot return to the past", which can only mean that if its actually Oden, he survived his execution with zero injuries and a bullet to the head, because he couldn't travel back to that moment to die...

Confused as to what this implies. The last text at the bottom is Toki saying she will stay in that timeline "with" Oden. That is her final destination because it is also Oden's. This actually proves the opposite lol. If Toki is alive, I expect her to be older, as in she didn't use her powers to...

Pre-timeskip also has absolutely no training moments or arcs, unlike post-which has shown Luffy actually learn from his fights so far. I could imagine the mass hysteria of Luffy and Zoro losing to Lucci in one hit, then coming back immediately that same night and whopping their asses a few hours...

This really isn't something Oda stumbles with man. Not forgetting plot points and making story points fit together logically is what makes usually makes One Piece as good as it is, and its why people like Oda as a writer. Its also why most of us still read it after all this time, because we are...

Seriously, ask yourself this. If this actually was Oden, why would Oda make his "great" return AFTER the scabbards lose the fight with Kaido? Toki miss the target by a few hours? He get stuck somewhere taking a shit? Come on guys, logically think about this stuff it doesn't make sense lmao

One of those rare cases where I'm actually disgusted by their point of views (usually I just don't care lol). Oda would have given Oden a far bigger entrance (some amazing attack/double spread/signficant moment) if he was actually still alive. Instead its reduced to a "timely" reunion in a...

An apple and a chicken are both food. Who knew how similar they were!

It was explained he has an abnormal body. Not comparable at all. Its also an actual mystery in the series set up by the author.

I can see them losing on the dome, doesn't mean I think they are out and need a handicap from a time traveling dead person. Nearly every portion of the flashback disproves she sent Oden to the future lol. She reads the letter after he is dead and they tell her he's dead. She cries from the...

We literally haven't seen the outcome yet? Lmao Its a shonen, the protagonists get powerups 1615524444 "triggered". I find this hilarious

I answered you already, still a silly observation lmao

Brook's whole crew gets poisoned to death and the last thing they do is laugh and smile and play music. It isn't until Brook is alone that he starts crying. You are reading WAAAAAAAY to deep into a scene that did not require that amount of investigation

This literally proves nothing about Oden being alive lmao

Apparently you are blind too, this is your own post: "No emotion"

Uh, I don't think you understand that definition. I'm literally showing you what was explained in that exact chapter and in previous chapters. Its not "mental gymnastics" when I'm actually providing facts, those are facts because they've been explained. The person I responded to is using "mental...

I have to question your intellect. So because you can't grasp that Oden sent his wife a letter after he died, you think the author fucked up and is implying time travel of said dead person after he died...which implies he's alive? What:zorothink:

You aren't getting it. She read the paper after his execution. So how would she know to "use her power" then and send him back in time? She also literally cries the next page. There's also no reason to leave her a note if he's not dead. 2 weeks of this lmao.

No, you guys are taking this way too literal. "I want you to use your power Toki" "If I should die": It was to send the scabbards to the future "Who said you are going to die": This is EXACTLY what Roger said to Rayleigh. They are talking about their wills passing on "Look ahead Oden, 20...

Hyou aint in his "prime" anymore. Chopper cured him and you can see in the raw he went back to his normal body when Chopper hit Queen. So no lol Also "But not anymore" implies he doesn't care now so its not a foreshadow. He believes this raid without Oden is good enough.

1. Swapped him with what? It was Oden in the pot. He survived for an hour in boiling oil and held up 10 people. 2. Impossible, she was in Kuri when it happened. Yamato, Orochi, Kaido and a whole city of people watched him get shot in the head. 3. We have no indication she can travel back in...