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Complete and utter hindsight bias WsW was the first official fight of this arc and people expected more of the character. That's it. Then Oda didn't show the aftermath of the fight prompting the increased discussion on the topic. Queen isn't WsW and once again Oda is pulling a cliffhanger...

The stupidest thing is I and many others can be wrong about our observations but people here will use hindsight bias against us to act like they were always going to be right lol. I know this because this was what exactly happened with the F6. I'm not even making hard claims Queen will get up...

Cracker was a completely unorthodox fight. It turned into an eating gag half way through. And Cracker was at least paying attention to Luffy. Queen wasn't 1638631723 No shit? And yes you do, that's how it works. And no, Jack already was narrated as defeated, like I said stop using the first...

It's probably tied more to volume content that's for sure. Like volume 101 was extended to 11 chapters to include Luffy and Kaido's clash in 1026, because it's a far better ending than 1025. We know for a fact that 102 will end with either 1036 or 1037 (10 or 11 chapters) which will probably be...

"Same results" Bro, 1022 is where the F6 confirmed were down. Not before. Me maintaining the argument UNTIL 1022 is literally 1 event. I thought the fights MIGHT continue. I was wrong ONCE, not FIVE times. Oda never confirmed, narratively, that the F6 fights were over until the last one...

It's not there is no set pattern. I made a whole post on this. You can get chapters like this Or you can get Chapters like Franky vs Senor Pink, Zoro vs Ryuma, Jinbe vs WsW and Franky vs Sasaki ("roughly" single chapter fights, but not really). Or you can get Chapters like Robin vs Black...

? I said it once in a thread I made after Robin vs Black Maria. I've mentioned it as an example, that's it. Again, you guys conflate my opinions for some hardcore stone cold fact that I believe is true. I've said on repeat that Queen can be down next chapter, JUST like I said the same for the...

I don't think that'll be the case. The jump in power for Sanji HAS to mean something. What I do expect is for there to actually be concrete damage on Queen (his cyborg parts look more damaged/exposed like Kuma). I just think a lot more back and forth between the characters (Sanji getting...

Better yet, we know Oda 100% follows chapter patterns and numbers. Fucking Jack lost on his birthday lol. Jinbe came back on his birthday. Gear 4 was shown on chapter 783, Gear 2 was shown on 387. There's a lot of weird little coincidences like this too, and I know I'm specifically missing a lot

Here's to hoping. I really want Queen to drop the bullshit and just start using whatever his poison powers are. Like very clearly he's hidden Germa powers to show off to Sanji. Nothing was ever stated to be his biggest/strongest weapon either. Annoying that we have to wait two weeks for this lol.

I personally disagree with the notion that all plotlines are closed here. The Germa one is still lingering. Sanji hates his brothers and Father, but loves his Sister/Mother. Conspicuously, Queen the PLAGUE has not used Reiju's powers, I personally don't get that. Sanji needs to come to some...

Same, a lot of people will shit on me for having an opinion, but even I'm more skeptical about this fight continuing than I thought the F6 would. I just see the oddities in this chapter as not being climactic enough, bit they could be.

Weirdest thing to me is how Oda could omit his sisters poison powers from the damn lineup when he's Queen the Plague lmao. Unless it's on purpose and intended to be used next? A lot of people say the "plotline" with Germa has been closed but the problem with this is Sanji's constant denial of...

Any number of things can "make" him a threat though. Does he use poison as a last resort? Ice Oni? Some other surprising technology? For a guy with all the gadgets he has, he never truly has shown off something that constitutes a "last resort" or "final" move that fights are typically known...

Everything you said I've discussed already. And WsW was actively trying to hurt Jinbe, I didn't say clash, I said final attacks. WsW did Shigan Madara until his fingers broke. Then he got his wrists broken, then he tried using Rankyaku. Then he used Gagan again. The point is he actively...

Agreed, something about it feels "light". Idk how to describe it big I think these examples convey it And before someone tries to counterargue that Oda cant draw like this anymore, we literally get these personal exchange type conclusions for Franky, Jinbe and Robin. Oda has already drawn more...

You realize that Queen getting a longer fight means longer fights in general right? If he gets 2 chapters, it guarantees Zoro will get 2 or more. If he's down here, then there "could" be a chance Zoro's fight only takes one more chapter. Is that a good or a bad thing in your opinion? I don't...

I will not. One example does not equate the other. Every single vs chapter is different. Every fight is handled differently I did not get "bodied". I literally said multiple times that if 1022 showed their defeated faces I would agree they are done, because narratively that's when it made...

@Cinera Look at Franky VS Fukuro This was the conclusion of Chapter 404 with the VS title. It very much could have also just been this one chapter alone. It resolves the entire little feud Franky and Fuku had with each other. It showed that he outclassed Fuku in that moment. You get Fuku's...

They showed it in 1022. It still happened just later. Hence why any arguement about Queen's fate works. He might be down in 1035, he might not. 1638549623 It's not a good example, those other fights had the villains doing final attacks on Jinbe and Franky. Queen is literally distracted by the...