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Be that as it may, You can not dismiss the placement Oda is putting on him. You would be denying canon for you own desires. 2nd point does not matter. It's a narrative not just a brawl, You are placing fights above the narrative. Irrelevant, Zoro may have scarred Kaidou, that's not in dispute...

You are making an assumption based on a bias outlook. Because total subjugation with an Iron Fist requires much more effort than just influencing a single party etc... to manipulate things. Everything else you say is headcanon.

Or you guys place way to much significance to something. It was Oden and his own skill with his blades. I really doubt Kaidou wasn't experienced back then, that just sounds like bullshit to me. The God's Valley Island w/e incident happened much longer ago than that. Kaidou was already tough...

and that's what I've been suggesting, We know so little of how exactly to make a Black Blade; Countless Battles aside.

Doubt.

Does Countless battles mean nothing then?

Why is it a point against Oden to not have made a black blade when he probably just didn't have the amount of time needed to do so, rather I view it as a gone to soon type of way.