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  1. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    I never said the contrary. And I agree. Obviously Oda will hype Mohawk through the roof. WB had a person and rival who he fought and didn’t beat. Hence his title is not 100% true. At least compared to Roger. If someone told me WB > Roger because of his title I would say : no they fought to a...
  2. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    Yes he justify their titles by them being insanely strong. Not by them being 100% true to their titles. Mihawk didn’t surpass anything if he didn’t fight him for 12y and never won against him in the past. they had numerous duels who knows what happened during them. Only know that Mihawk wanted...
  3. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    On the VC I was said WB was called WSM before Roger dying and before them fighting. We only only 3 titles. WSC which is weird and without any real rival ? Or what it really means. WSM : with WB having an equal WSS : with Mihawk never beating Shanks and never fighting him for 12y So yeah I...
  4. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    It’s not at best : it was outright said that Roger and Wb fought equally. And were eye to eye. So the title of strongest doesn’t work if you have an equal. So the title of strongest doesn’t work if you have an equal. Either you’re the strongest or you’re not. You can be seen as the strongest...
  5. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    Yes both grew stronger obviously. And Mihawk didn’t duel Shanks with his new power, he doesn’t know at all how far Shanks can push him. Yes he lost an arm, yet he is still a match for admirals, other Yonko etc. Mihawk likely didn’t fight Shanks because of pride. Didn’t want to fight a one...
  6. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    I don’t talk about that i talk about Roger and WB being equal when WB was in prime
  7. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    How does he know that ? He didn’t fight shanks for 12 years. And as far as we know he never won against him before. Hé didn’t have any problem fighting before and doesn’t know at all how strong he is now.
  8. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    Yet WB title if isn’t fake wasn’t totally true
  9. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    And what about the rest ? Mihawk has better portrayal ? Do you think Mihawk is stronger than Prime Beard ?
  10. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    And seriously ? What do you think he doesn’t fight him anymore ? When Shanks was totally capable at least to push him very high / extreme (I think you think that way, that Shanks can push Mihawk really far even if he is below)
  11. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    Mihawk did Yet we never knew about the result against Shanks and it’s been 12 years he hadn’t dueled Shanks. And WB had recognitions etc yet in the end at best he was only equal to Roger. He wasn’t the true strongest, Roger was there at his side
  12. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    Yes but we disagree with the fact that Roger was stronger or not compared to Mihawk Roger was the PK, the guy who started everything, the MC goal, Mihawk said it was more complicated to be PK, WB equal, the guy with the highest bounty (for now). Roger portrayal is above Mihawk And he didn’t...
  13. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    That’s to show that having a black blade doesn’t make you weaker than guys with it And my other point was : Roger and Shanks indeed only used swords, are swordsmen but there are not in the WSS race and not part of Zoro dream
  14. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    But I do answer already : It’s the same thing and answer for Roger and Shanks. Them being as strong as they want is not a problem at all for Zoro to be WSS. Zoro indeed wants to be the WSS and he will fucking be it, and I think he will be the strongest of all time or at least as strong as...
  15. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    I just did. Shanks can do the same as Roger. He indeed fight with a sword but he isn’t in the WSS race, because Mihawk and Shanks aren’t dueling anymore. Now answer my question : what Roger can do except sword ? And do you think Mihawk is stronger ?
  16. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    What can Roger do that is not swordsmanship ? Tell me
  17. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    Yeah frankly, Shanks had always a case of being number 1 thanks to COC hype, Mc related, BB main enemy, and SH But there are other thing in the mix. So maybe he isn’t and I take into account other hype, narrative and feats. Obviously, we can’t know what Oda will do. But just now, hype vs...
  18. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    You are shitting on your own character you don’t even think he will be the strongest swordsman of all time, it’s hard for Zoro man…. Luffy will be the strongest ever likely Sanji the greatest cook Choppa the best doc Nami the best navigator But Zoro will only be the greatest of his own gen ...
  19. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    Because he has feats too. And Kaido isn’t Shanks or Mihawk rival. When you compare everything Shanks and Mihawk have, yes I think Shanks has more things going for him. And I already listed everything.
  20. RayanOO

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

    So you’re telling me Zoro wouldn’t be the strongest swordsman of all time ? He can be stronger than Shanks. But even if he is it would t have any link with his dream. His dream is beating Mihawk and be WSS. Mihawk is not fighting Shanks for the WSS title anymore. Zoro doesn’t need to. Shanks...
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