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Joyboy lived 100+ years so that edcuse does not work.

Why are you spewing bs. Oda already debunked that notion in the Kaido Vivre Card from the databook. Also refers to chapter 1003 and 1010 beign the only time Kaido was serious against an opponent since Oden. Luffy also has been damaging kaido the most as well.

Either that or Gear 4 is his fodder form. He has never used Advanced Armamet Haki in base since the Yamato fight, when he used it while in base, it was comparable to Gear 3 elephant Gun. Yamato dodged it, with it causing a huge explosion. The fact that Luffy will fight Blackbeard without his...

That is exactly what Zoro fans say. i'm using their logic. Even Nik87 said Luffy never trained his physical strenght during the 2 year timeskip. Not only that but I can prove my point. For Example, Take child Zoro at age 4, give him swords, throw him in the jungle and tell him to survive. This...

Like I said He has been training his devil fruit control, not base physical strength. This is supported by episode 1 and the ace Lufyy, Sabo flashback. He only trained his base physical strength in Wano.

Garp throwing him into the jungle and telling him to survive is not professional training. Professional Training is what Zoro, Sanji, Coby, Law, Marines all recieved. ALL of them have a fighting style, and all have done weight training.

Wrong again, what I stated is facts. Luffy only trained his devil fruit and haki during the 2 year timeskip. In fact thoughout his life, he has only trained his devil fruit mastery up until age 17. This is a manga fact supported by his backstory and episode 1.

Everybody but, Luffy, Roger, Big Mom and Oden are pathetic in One Piece. Luffy like Oden and Big Mom never trained his physical strength( until Wano) and just worked on mastering their devil fruit, or Swordsmanhsip and haki. All 3 of them just relied on their natural strength to carry them...

Roger used internal destruction on Oden, which is why he was bleeding from his mouth despite blocking the attack with his blades.

There is a massive Gap and Oda made that clear when Zoro needed help with Pica, and when he lost to Gyukimaru + nerfed killer. Zoro struggled with hawkins, leaving nailed. Law fought Doflamingo and Fujitora wiyhout gettong one shot. Luffy fought Doflamingo + his clone + Bellamy + Trebol...

Luffy never got physically stronger without seastone training. All he did was get better at utilizing his devil fruit. For the first time in his life, Luffy is getting physically stronger by working out.

G2/G3 Current Luffy Low Diffs Zoro in , due to FS, AdvCoA and better endurance. Base Luffy Mid Diffs Zoro due to FS and AdCoA.

Go and read WCI, it was stated when Jinbei was struggling to wake Luffy up.

No he cannot, its always active which is why use 3x the amount of regular human just by existing.

He does not train his base physical strength without his devil fruit. This is the first time he traing physically in his life.

2 years training in haki where most of that training involved just fighting against animals, and self taught Devil Fruit mastery. His training with Rayleigh was just his childhood training survival training amped up. He was self taught during this time as well. He never had any new skills...

All the Villians and Strawhats except Ussop and Sanji are pathetic compared to Luffy. You have Luffy- An illiterate mostly self taught fighter with a Devil Fruit that is not made for battle beating them. The only training this man recieved was being left alone in the jungle and being told to...

Luffy has been fighting extreme fights, Doflamingo. Cracker and Katkuri, people with stronger Armament Haki hardening than Luffy. This means his hardening has been getting stronger according to Rayleigh, haki gets stronger, the stronger the person you fight is. So, Luffy's hardening has been...

You also cannot prove Zoro has better hardening than Luffy, when he has never been shown using it to block a piercing attack.

Bellamy broke Luffy's hardening with Force of his attacks, the same thing G4 Boundman Luffy did to Katakuri's superior armament haki. Not just this but Doflamingo could not pierce base Luffy hardening easily, only when his haki was running out. Not only that, but Cracker attacked base luffy...