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Pretty sure it's a Zoro fan that made this thread and Sanji fans are against it lol Yeah, it's pretty fucked up.

:whitepress::whitepress::whitepress: Third fuckin' thread about this same 5 years old topic now. Frankly, the Robin nipple thread deserves way more attention but we're wasting our time on this.

Not really. Just saying that Robin's statement was just for Sanji, or crew collectively based on JP wording. Oda has already called both of them wings in SBS, anyway. It's a very old news. https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/zoro-and-sanji-wings-of-pirate-king.16047/ Btw you can go...

Imagine making a post trying to disprove the delusions and toxicity towards Sanji, only to dump bunch of same stuff towards Zoro while doing it :suresure: But that aside. It's a very minority that diminishes Sanji as cook or throws him out of M3, specially in Onigashima. At least seriously...

It might give off the impression that baiters or trolls from Zoro's fandom are more toxic- but that's simply because of Zoro has been getting a lot more "gifts" and hype than Sanji ever since, well, a long time now. So these side are the loudest. For instance, this very minor wing stuff and...

I think the term is transphobic. Also, it goes both ways. A heck-ton if Sanji fans can be clear-cut baiters and troll, as well. But hot damn you take some of these fans trolling too seriously, don't you...

My point was pretty much just about the overall narrative importance among crew or story. But other than that, well, yeah. Luffy DID say he can't become the PK without Sanji for a reason, and he IS portrayed as one of the two biggest supports for Luffy for a reason. Though would add someone...

Again, don't take things too literally. Wings signifies pillars of support- these two are the main guys who will fly Luffy. It's same as saying "These two are Luffy's hands". Oda doesn't say it with mindset of what happens when one wing is heavier. Again, wings can be dominant wings but all that...

That's not the analogy. You're taking something symbolic and turning it into what's written literally. Birds have dominant wings, too, just like people have dominant hands. When you're doing something with both hands- such as lifting or this or that, then both hands clearly exert equal pressure...

This, pretty much, yeah. Strength is pretty blatant- Zoro will always a stronger combatant, but that doesn't mean Sanji is weak or shouldn't be grouped in M3. These guys are top 3, and everyone else is behind by a very significant margin. And their narrative importance in crew is perfectly...

Yeah, those are trolling. Sanji was never leaving M3, and will never be. Better to just ignore them. It's similar to likes of Big D Kaios but on the opposite side. Flame wars will continue and no amount of evidence will prove the folks otherwise.

Roughly the same thing; it just puts emphasis on following factors: -They're both the two main pillars of support for Luffy- similar to Rayleigh and Gaban (Silver and Copper to Roger's Gold) -They're, well, two most significant individuals to the crew in terms of characteristics and whatnot...

So it's pretty much the same thing narratively :sanmoji: No idea what it brings up that's not already known, then. Even before that SBS was released, honestly. The two being Luffy's right and left hand men respectively.

Robin's comment aside (which I still say isn't what some people interpreted it as), since Oda already mentioned the wing stuff; how is it any different from calling Zoro and Sanji as Luffy's two hands. The funny part is that this information has been out for, like, half a decade? More? But...

The Databook one? I acknowledged it. Just saying what happened this chapter is irrelevant to that thing. Not that it matters much. Zoro and Sanji being Luffy's main men has been obvious since chapter 100 or something

Again, translation is accurate. Even in English, you'd say "Potato is my wings!" You'd normally not say "Potato is my two wings!" I've never once in my life seen the latter being used two describe a single person in comics or so, either. But that doesn't mean they're talking about potato and...

The wording used is 両翼 (as stated by sandman). It's Ryōyoku. It's... really not that special of a text. Something like: 鳥は両翼を広げた (Or, the bird spread its wings) can be stated commonly. Titles such as "Akuma no Ryōyoku" are also very common. Casually using it as wings; it's one of the titles...

The wording is same. "They're Luffy's precious wings." "Sanji deserves to be Luffy's precious wings." That still doesn't change the fact that Robin called him both wings without any room for additional person, though. It's not really a big deal because Oda did call them his wings, but Robin's...

He said Sanji is the wings, not wing or one of the wings. So, no, you're wrong. But who cares? He has called them wings in SBS ages ago. They're Luffy's two main men and pillars of support. It's an old news that was stated by author ages ago and no one cared other than initially back then as...